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- From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
- Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.censorship
- Subject: Re: K-12 schools and Usenet feeds
- Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
- Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:27:30 GMT
- Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
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- References: <1993Jan19.132749.6573@ms.uky.edu> <1jk0riINNgsi@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <1993Jan20.132505.8020@ms.uky.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan20.132505.8020@ms.uky.edu> morgan@ms.uky.edu (Wes Morgan) writes:
-
- > So you are in favor of dumping a full feed into K-8 students' laps?
- > I'd like to see you talking to a parent whose 9-year-old brings home
- > hardcopy of *.pictures or some of the raunchier alt.sex.* material.
-
- I have missed the point that the system talked about extends that far.
- From the original posting (and I had no other information) I assumed
- that it was only about *high schools*. I agreee that for elementary
- schools, a different approach has to be taken, (but this matches books
- and TV shows as well) and perhaps the whole USENET is not that
- well-suited for them. NOT because of perhaps some "nasty words", but
- because of its whole culture.
-
- >...
- > Apparently (according to the discussion here), a "censored" feed is any feed
- > that does not contain each and every available group. I'd guess that over 90%
- > of Usenet readers are using a censored feed, if we accept that definition.
- > Right?
-
- A censored feed, by my definition, is a feed from which some certain
- groups or articles are deliberately cut out because some admin or
- authority deems their content "unsuitable" for distribution, based
- on his/her own opinion. This *excludes*
-
- - sites which carry only selected groups based on *technical*
- constraints, but are willing to add more groups on demand (we have one
- here too, which would simply crash under a full feed)
- - sites whose users have *agreed* to not carry certain material
-
- Censorship is a restriction of the freedom of speech (active) and
- information (passive) that gets imposed upon people by other people
- without their participation. It is a thing that contradicts democracy.
- Censorship needs the technical power to block "unwanted" free
- expression, and the administrative power to decide "par order du
- mufti" what is unwanted.
-
- (I'm not sure if your percentage is right. In Germany, most
- university-bound feeds do indeed match *my* definition of censorship.)
-
- Olaf
-
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