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- From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger)
- Subject: Re: Indiana Welfare
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- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:07:03 GMT
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- References: <1993Jan25.215119.25480@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> <qyqZXB1w165w@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca>
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- In article <qyqZXB1w165w@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca> lisa@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca writes:
- >>
- >Does anyone HONESTLY believe that $432/month is enough for one adult
- >and one child to live on??? The other figures seem ridiculously,
- >unrealistically LOW, too!
-
- No, but I do believe that ~$250/month is a reasonable incremental cost
- for a second person in the household. In fact, I <know> that it is, as
- I have been in exactly this position.
-
- >professing your love and dedication as a parent, ought to look at this a
- >little closer. $148/month??? Give me a break!
- >
- >I guess $148/mo. should be adequate for food costs.
-
- $148.00 is adaquate for food for <one> person?! I could feed at least two
- off that for a month without <any> trouble at all! Now, I grant you this
- does not allow for meals out and such, but those are <luxuries>, not
- necessities.
-
- >But what about clothes,
- >school supplies, shelter, braces and (God forbid!) baseball gloves or birthday,
- >Easter and Christmas gifts?
-
- Clothes aren't <that> expensive, unless you insist on having the "best" and
- the most fashionable every month. Then they can be outrageous. Again, this
- is a luxury.
-
- Shelter is not much more expensive for two than for one. In fact, it
- doesn't have to be <any> more expensive. I've had to do this in the past
- (double up); its certainly doable.
-
- School supplies aren't very expensive either, unless you like (again)
- designer crap that is hardly necessary.
-
- Braces are frequently covered by health (dental) insurance.
-
- Gifts? If both parents were <jointly> parenting, then both could buy them,
- couldn't they?
-
- >What about enough for the CP to pay for Life
- >Insurance so that there's something left to raise the kids on should the
- >unthinkable happen? I just can't believe that anyone living in the real
- >world could honestly believe that $432/mo. is adequate for a parent and child
- >to live on. How many of you live on that for just yourself, month after month
- >and year after year?
-
- If something unthinkable happens to the CP there is always the NCP who can
- become the CP isn't there? What's the problem there?
-
- >(Sure as hell won't pay your University tuition for long...
- >not everyone can get scholarships, you know).
-
- Nor is a University education a <guaranteed benefit> for someone. I paid
- for my own college, and so can a kid who really wants to go.
-
- >> Based on my experience with economic models for child costs it would
- >> appear to me that a reasonable estimate based on the above numbers
- >> for the first child is about $160/month.
-
- >A "reasonable estimate"? I'm appalled.
- >
- >Lisa
- >Founder, P.E.R.C.S. (Parents for Enforcing Regular Child Support)
- >Vancouver Island, B.C., Canada // Courtesy of the old coot hisse'f!
-
- Not surprising, considering that you want some PERCS from the system.
-
- How about, instead of raising support levels, or having outrageous estimates
- (it certainly doesn't cost an EXTRA $500/month to have another person in the
- house) we do something reasonable and have the kids split their time
- half-half with the parents? Then you don't have to do "support", since each
- parent is already <providing> half the support inherently.
-
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