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- From: lisa@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca
- Newsgroups: alt.child-support
- Subject: Re: Indiana Welfare
- Message-ID: <qyqZXB1w165w@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 15:45:37 GMT
- References: <1993Jan25.215119.25480@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
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- Organization: Lebenty-Screech's Almanac, Nanaimo, B.C. CANADA
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- garrod@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (David Garrod) writes:
-
- >
- > Several persons had posted the the base for child support should
- > be welfare benefits, so I thought it appropriate to investigate same
- > for my state and post them in this forum.
- > Source: Peggy Taylor, Indiana State Department of Welfare
- > Regional Office, 420 Hoffman St., Hammond, Indiana
- > (219) 937-0232
- >
- > 1 mother, 1 child: Monthly subsistence $229
- > Food stamps $203
- > Total $432
- >
- > 1 mother, 2 children Monthly subsistence $288
- > Food stamps $292
- > Total $580
- >
- > 1 mother, 3 children Monthly subsistence $346
- > Food stamps $374
- > Total $720
- >
- Does anyone HONESTLY believe that $432/month is enough for one adult
- and one child to live on??? The other figures seem ridiculously,
- unrealistically LOW, too!
-
- I realize that the cost of living in the States is somewhat lower than it
- is here, the wages are often slightly lower as well. However, I am an
- American (born in San Jose, California), so I get down there to visit family
- as often as possible. In fact, I was in Grants Pass, and in Portland, Oregon
- last August and spent some time comparing wages, rent, food costs, etc..
- They're not that much different than ours in Canada, from what I could see.
-
- In B.C., Social Assistance ("Welfare") standard rates (maximum) for one adult is
- $525/month. I don't know what the maximum rate is for one parent with two
- children is now, but in 1990 it was $974/mo., (maximum allowance). That two
- year old figure is considerably more than Indiana's $580/mo. for a parent with
- two children...$396 more! I can assure you that even in 1990, $974/mo. didn't
- go very far...
-
- No wonder single parents who aren't getting child support and who are also "on
- the system" are screaming for enforcement of child support orders! Come on.
- All of you who are espousing that your own children should only get $148/mo.
- in total (and/or plus Blue Cross) for all of their on-going needs, while
- professing your love and dedication as a parent, ought to look at this a
- little closer. $148/month??? Give me a break!
-
- I guess $148/mo. should be adequate for food costs. But what about clothes,
- school supplies, shelter, braces and (God forbid!) baseball gloves or birthday,
- Easter and Christmas gifts? What about enough for the CP to pay for Life
- Insurance so that there's something left to raise the kids on should the
- unthinkable happen? I just can't believe that anyone living in the real
- world could honestly believe that $432/mo. is adequate for a parent and child
- to live on. How many of you live on that for just yourself, month after month
- and year after year? (Sure as hell won't pay your University tuition for long...
- not everyone can get scholarships, you know).
-
-
- > While one cannot from these data separate out the cost of the first
- > child from the cost of the mother;
- > the second child cost is $580 - $432 = $148
- > the third child cost is $720 - $580 = $140 per month.
- >
- > Medicaid (or is it medicare?) picks up medical and dental on top of
- > this.
- >
- > Based on my experience with economic models for child costs it would
- > appear to me that a reasonable estimate based on the above numbers
- > for the first child is about $160/month.
- >
- > David Garrod
- >
- A "reasonable estimate"? I'm appalled.
-
- Lisa
-
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- Lisa Lambeth lisa@oneb2.almanac.bc.ca
-
- Founder, P.E.R.C.S. (Parents for Enforcing Regular Child Support)
- Vancouver Island, B.C., Canada // Courtesy of the old coot hisse'f!
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