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- From: hairy@sloth.equinox.gen.nz (Phil Anderson)
- Newsgroups: alt.censorship
- Subject: Re: soc.feminism editorial policy
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- Message-ID: <727749700snx@sloth.equinox.gen.nz>
- References: <3519@bsu-cs.bsu.edu>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:41:40 GMT
- Organization: Lethargy Inc.
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- In article <3519@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> joemays@bsu-cs.bsu.edu writes:
-
- > In article <727433011snx@sloth.equinox.gen.nz>
- hairy@sloth.equinox.gen.nz (Phil > Anderson) writes:
- >
- > >OK, so you maintain that if some material is barred from one medium
- > >because of its content, but can still be published in some other
- > >medium, it hasn't been censored. Isn't this analogous to saying that
- > [..]
- > >I can't see any difference in principle between these two cases. Do
- > >you?
- >
- > Yup.
- > [...]
- > Is the NY Times not printing nudes on the front page censorship? No,
- > because the selected representative of the owner of the times, the
- > editor, has determined that the forum will not be used in that way.
-
- I suggest you re-read what I wrote, because you're addressing a
- different issue to the one I raised.
-
- The original poster appeared to say that something had not been
- censored unless there was _nowhere_ it could be found. The matter of
- who controls the particular places where it might possibly appear
- isn't relevant to the general principle.
-
- It _may_ be relevant to whether or not a _particular_ case involves
- censorship, although I personally think that content-based editorial
- control is a form of censorship, albeit a quite legitimate one in a
- privately controlled medium. (Here, I think, we differ more over
- definitions than basic principles).
-
- > to forums which might accept their material. Censorship begins
- > when someone other than the owner of the forum begins to control
- > what is contained in the forum against the owner's will.
-
- Does this mean that government-owned media are by definition
- uncensored (in the absence of riot, revolution or whatever)?
-
- > they aren't. Who gives them permission to exercise editorial control?
- > The question of "ownership" in the net becomes very confused. I can't
-
- You're right there.
-
- > abstracted and bland since the departure of Ed Nilges? Isn't there
- > someone out there willing to make some inflammatory call for the silencing
- > of some group? I know: Silence the Armenians! We can't have them on
-
- Silence the censors!
-
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- Phil Anderson *** hairy@sloth.equinox.gen.nz
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