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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Will the -REAL- Christians please stand up? Was: What did Judas be
- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.071813.19988@netcom.com>
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:18:13 GMT
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- In article <01050133.ohmnd7@distant.uucp> edw@distant.uucp writes:
- >
- >In article <1jo4trINNlp1@pith.uoregon.edu> (alt.atheism,sci.skeptic), delancey@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Scott C DeLancey) writes:
- >> In article <1993Jan20.213756.8012@hfsi.uucp> ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata - FSO) writes:
- >> >
- >> >I would be most greatful if you could point out to me the passages in
- >> >Scripture that support "treating gays badly".
- >>
- >> Well, one that leaps to mind is Leviticus 18, where among the many
- >> offences for which the offender is to be "cut off from his people" is
- >> for a man to lie with a man as with a woman.
- >
- >Not to inject reason into this, but could you ask these questions for me?
- >
- >Assuming, for the sake of argument, that God says homosexuality is immoral,
- >can you tell us why He says it's immoral?
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- Wait a minute, it is said that no man can know the mind of god. But heck, I
- cannot even tell why -you- made this post. To ask one for the motives/reasons
- of another is not reasonable. They can never know for sure.
-
- > If it's because He says so, please
- >tell us *why* He says so. Now, we have your *real* reason for thinking that
- >homosexuality is immoral. Unless you can explain *why* God says homosexuality
- >is immoral, you're making your god look pretty arbitrary, or, alternatively,
- >you're making morality beyond human comprehension, which would make me wonder
- >why we're being held accountable for things that we can't even begin to
- >comprehend.
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- Lack of an explanation is the xpected outcome, and proves nothing.
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- >You see, the Divine Command theory of morality doesn't work, even to fellow
- >believers. You're going to need to fall back onto some other moral theory.
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- I do not support this theory of morality, not do I see any reason in your
- demands for information that would not be available for another person,
- much less a diety.
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- >I'll be looking forward to your *real* justification for condemning
- >homosexuality.
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- All justifications are personal.
-
- >Ed
- >
- >> Scott DeLancey
- >
- >--
- >Edwin H. Watkeys III edw@distant.uucp
- >Distant Software dsinc!jabber!distant!edw
- >+1 215 387 7971 edw%distant@bts.com
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- Rich
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