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- From: David.Rice@ofa123.fidonet.org
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Who: clayton@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Onyx)
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- Date: 25 Jan 93 08:18:02
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- O> "I am writing this in hopes that there are some people out
- O> there who are willing to listen. I am not trying to convince
- O> you of the empirical validity of christianity.
-
- There isn't any. Christianity (please note the capitalization,
- damn your eyes) is based upon tried and true Pagan religions
- that preceeded it. That's a fact, which you can no doubt look
- up yourself. Look up Horus, as a start. Now look up Zeus, from
- which Jesus gets his name. Now look at Mithraism, and finally
- Zorathism. Tah dah! Proof. Sorry to break the facts to you.
-
- O> I am merely hoping to expose you true christianity, so that
- O> you will not look to modern day christianity as any testament
- O> for what a christian is.
-
- "True" as in what you believe. Those other billion Christians
- aren't really Christian, right, ole bean? Won't you get damn
- lonely up in heaven all by yourself and Jerry Falwell?
-
- O> The bible outlines what a christian is. It is riddled with
- O> the requisites (not helpful hints mind you) for an individual
- O> who wishes to consider him/herself christian."
-
- It is riddled with contradictions, impossibilities, previously
- known myths, lies, deciet, murder, butchery, child abuse, and it
- does not have a single thing new to say that hadn't been said
- in times predating it.
-
- The only requisite for getting in to heaven, so the bible says,
- is by the grace of god. So much for all the Jesus nonsense.
-
- O> Unfortunately, most of modern day christianity ignores a good
- O> portion of it. To most 'christians' today, God is a one-stop
- O> shop; shop on sunday, and forget for the rest of the week.
-
- Ah, you're back to the I-am-Christian-They-are-not crap. Silly boy!
-
- O> This is not christianity. Christianity is neither the humanist
- O> philosophy that many liberals would claim (although there are
- O> many characteristics about a christian as described in the bible,
- O> that would fit in perfectly with humanism), nor is it the bastion
- O> of tradition and male-dominance that conservatives claim. A
- O> christian is neither forceful nor timid. Unfortunately, these
- O> polar opposites have turned off many from a beautiful faith.
-
- Yeah, yeah. Slavery is and was Biblically supported. Child abuse
- is and was also Biblically supported. Oops, I forgot! They aren't
- Real Christians (TM).
-
- O> Do not be fooled.
-
- You don't decieve me a bit. Don't worry.
-
- O> If anyone calls himself christian to you, examine his/her life;
- O> are they fruitful? Do they bring many to the fold? Are they
- O> generous, kind, graceous, slow to anger, dedicated to God? Do
- O> they talk about the bible and church more than anything else?
- O> If not, then ignore them as hypocrites.
-
- Gee, I'm generous, kind, graceous, slow to anger, and dedicated to
- Good, so I'm better than most Christians, by your own scale. Any
- one who talks about their mytholody as fact are to be medicated.
-
- O> "If you want the 'reason' why we should believe in God, I can not
- O> give it. If you want the empiricial justification for the
- O> supernatural, the nature of the word empirical forbids such
- O> justification. If your heart is open however, to the love that
- O> christ died for; the extreme joy and benevolence that can be
- O> yours; then please respond to me with your questions. I will not
- O> attempt to prove the existence of God."
-
- When you are finished having your LSD flashback here, kindly state
- the reason why someone should believe in something that cannot be
- seen, measured, observed, or felt in any way. While you're at it,
- work on Santa Claus, the Great Pumpkin, and Pink Invisible Unicorns.
-
- That you in advance for answering my questions!
-
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