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- From: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice)
- Subject: Re: religion in general
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.082714.21704@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
- Keywords: atheism is more than just anti-Christian
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- Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:27:14 GMT
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- In <sumner.727643696@milo.math.scarolina.edu> sumner@math.scarolina.edu (David Sumner) writes:
-
- >Fred Rice writes:
- >
- >>Several people, throughout history in fact, have the
- >>viewpoint that the essential truths within various
- >>"authentic" religions are one.
- >
- >Several people throughout history have believed just about
- >anything you can imagine. This isn't much of an argument for
- >anything.
-
- My reason for bringing this up is mainly to show that this viewpoint is
- not a newfangled 20th century idea, but it has been at the heart of
- various mysticisms for eons. The reason why this is important is that
- if it _was_ a newfangled 20th century idea, it could be argued that this
- viewpoint is then illegitimate because the actual adherents of these
- religions over the centuries did not believe it. I was just pre-empting a
- possible attack.
-
- >But more to the point, this statement lacks substance. What
- >exactly are a few of the 'essential truths' you refer to
- >here.
-
- Please keep in mind I am just a beginner in this topic. The main
- purpose of my posting was to show that the argument
-
- Plurality of religions => Religions are illegitimate
-
- is not really a good argument.
-
- Anyhow, some of the similarities I am aware of are:
-
- A belief in some sort of single diety among several of these ancient
- religions, a non-anthropomorphic one (so in this sense Tao may actually
- be a better word than God, since "God" usually has anthropomorphic
- connotations in popular Western thought). For example, within Hinduism
- the idea is present that the thousands of gods are really different
- aspects of Brahman.
-
- Some sense of the world being a "reflection" of "God" -- this idea is
- prevalent in Sufism and Hinduism, and probably the other religions too.
-
- A sense in which "God" is within each human being. This, to my
- knowledge, is also within Islam/Sufism and Hinduism. For example, the
- Qur'an (Koran) -- the Holy Book of Islam -- talks of God breathing into
- Man "something of His Spirit", i.e. there is explicitly, according to the
- Qur'an, something of "God's Spirit" in each human. This may also be the
- meaning of the Bible when it speaks of God creating man in "His Image".
- (I think it is ludicrous to interpret this particular Biblical passage
- literally, since God has no physical image.)
-
- Well, there are a few starters. To say more I'd have to have my
- books with me. However, I should note I am a beginner in this
- particular field, certainly not an expert. In the past, I have mainly
- read about Islam and Sufism.
-
- At the moment, I am not trying to argue that this point of view is
- necessarily true -- although I, at present, tend to feel this way --
- because I don't yet know enough about various religions to be able to
- say this with confidence. My main intention is to point to the
- existence of this point of view.
-
- Fred Rice
- darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
-
-