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- From: casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE)
- Subject: Re: "The Case for Astrology"
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- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:33:00 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan26.015620.3146@udel.edu>, hughes@gloin.cis.udel.edu (John Hughes) writes...
- >In article <C1BIJ9.8oJ@cs.mcgill.ca> pisces@cs.mcgill.ca (L. M. P. McPherson) writes:
- >>
- >>Has anyone read John Anthony West's "The Case for Astrology"
- >>(first published in 1991)?
- >
- >Hmm, I thought this book (or at least one with an identical title) came out in
- >the early eighties. I was in fact impressed with most of it then; I felt he was
- >rather more eloquent and believable than some others who defend the art with
- >more of a fervent religiousness.
-
- Well, I probably have a different angle on the subject matter than a lot of
- you. I found a very few parts of the book, including the part about CSICOP,
- interesting, if universally slanted and unbalanced, and frequently ranting.
-
- West begins by denouncing the 'dreaming Chaldean' 'speculation' about the
- origins of astrology (meaning that it arose as a folk-omenistic quasi-religion)
- and then launches into a much more fanciful and speculative flight of his
- own imagination, using a single hieroglyph of an ancient looking up at a star
- as his only evidence. According to him, the ancients began with a vast
- store of nearly perfect astrological wisdom, which has become bastardized
- rather than refined with the passing of time, until what we have today is a
- mere fragment of their once almost divine understanding. This seems to me an
- obvious example of rewriting of history to suit one's own prejudices, in this
- case, raging hostility to science. An example which comes to mind is the
- theory advanced by some radical black movements that Africans once ruled the
- entire world in an empire dwarfing that of Rome (they claim this was 66
- trillion years ago, by the way). In any case, West's argument ignores a lot
- of evidence about the level of mathematics and astronomy in the early Near
- East, and he struggles to explain why no written records of all this technical
- knowledge, nor even a single horoscope, have been found.
-
- In terms of evidence for astrology, the book offers none, other than Gauquelin's
- work, which has been frequently discussed and which fits rather imperfectly
- at best with 'normal' astrological techniques. He offers no rebuttal of the
- many refutations of various astrological claims about physical and other
- characteristics demonstrated in the works of Gauquelin and Dean. This is a
- common practice among advocates of astrology - to ignore the much larger number
- of negative results and concentrate on the small number of anomalous 'positive'
- ones (I put positive in quotes, since while Gauquelin may be evidence for
- something, it is not in agreement with the standard astrological interpretations
- of houses).
-
- The discussion of CSICOP is mean-spirited and also one-sided even if CSICOP
- does deserve criticism. Again, it is clear that West is a single-minded
- science-basher, and a master of rhetorical-point scoring and character
- assassination of those who cannot defend themselves in his book. No doubt
- any equally unbalanced approach by a critic of astrology would be greeted with
- howls of derision and derided as evidence of the close-mindedness of its
- authors.
-
- So, obviously, when one picks up a book named "The Case for Astrology", one
- expects that a viewpoint will be expressed. Even so, I found his arguments
- to be unconvincing and not nearly as plausible or reasoned, not to mention
- interesting, as many I have read here on the net. Indeed, to my mind,
- 'fervent religiousness' would be a perfect description of West's defense of
- astrology. A convincing defense would at least confront the problems with
- experimental evidence for astrology, rather than dismissing them and launching
- ad hominem attacks on the critics.
-
- On the other hand, maybe being panned by a skeptic is the best review such a
- book can get...
-
- I would recommend Eysenck and Nias, "Astrology: Science or Superstition" as
- the most informative and balanced treatment of the subject I have read. The
- authors worked closely with Gauquelin, and seem, if anything, to be a bit
- too much in his awe. Even so, they recount many of the unsuccessful tests of
- 'textbook' astrology and show the ways at least some of the apparently positive
- results failed to account for systematics and fell apart under closer scrutiny.
- Despite reaching the conclusion that the evidence for astrology is largely
- lacking, the book is calm in its argumentation and fair in its approach.
-
-
- Dave
-
-