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- From: tb13@ellis.uchicago.edu (leon joel gross)
- Subject: Re: Man rapes Man
- Message-ID: <1993Jan7.164308.4401@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- Organization: University of Chicago
- References: <GPRIORES.93Jan5113335@fish.oracle.com> <krikket.05xw@meltdown.chi.il.us>
- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:43:08 GMT
- Lines: 35
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- In article <krikket.05xw@meltdown.chi.il.us> krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'Krikket' Krick) writes:
- >In article <GPRIORES.93Jan5113335@fish.oracle.com>, gpriores@oracle.com (gordon
- >prioreschi) writes:
- >>In article <1993Jan4.163415.3330@midway.uchicago.edu> tb13@ellis.uchicago.edu
- >>(leon joel gross) writes:
- >>> [The word "gay" is] offensive for a variety
- >>>of reasons for a variety of people.
- >>
- >>Tell that to the organizers of San Francisco's annual "Gay Pride" parade.
- >
- >If you had left the above comment *IN CONTEXT*, I would do so without
- >hesitation. And I have talked with people who help organize Chicago's annual
- >"Gay Pride" parade, and they agree.
- >
- >Now let's cover what the origional context was, for there is obviously nothing
- >wrong with being Gay or Lesbian. Many people are (rightly) proud of having
- >that sexual orientation.
- >
- >The origional comment was "gay rape". A misnomer at best, deliberately harmful
- >at worst. Rape is rape is rape. It is an act of violence that takes place
- >between two people, one of which is seeking power over the other.
- >
- >The sex of the abuser and victim are completely irrevelent to the rape, for a
- >variety of reasons. Hence the objection to the term "gay rape". There are
- >enough people out there who have been raped by a member of their own sex who
- >have convinced themselves that because it was a member of their own sex, they
- >too must be gay, otherwise it wouldn't have happened.
- >
- >And that's one of the more MINOR objections people have to that term!
- >
- tThis was basicaly my pooit.
-
- Leon Gross
- I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
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