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- From: DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU (Brad Porter)
- Subject: Re: A new outlook on activism.
- Message-ID: <16B4EDD8E.DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU>
- Organization: Syracuse University
- References: <168CE12C5C.DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU> <1993Jan4.165029.5007@vexcel.com> <16B4DED0F.DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU> <1993Jan5.230553.12066@vexcel.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 15:58:06 EST
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- In article <1993Jan5.230553.12066@vexcel.com>
- dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:
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- >
- >In article <16B4DED0F.DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU> DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU (Brad Porter) writes:
- >>
- >>If you were to call a large newspaper and say: There's going to be an
- >>illegal timer cut at this place at this time, what are the chances they
- >>aren't going to respond. The media loves this kind of stuff. Physical
- >>blockading won't be nearly as effective as reporters and maybe cameras
- >>taping everything. There are easier ways and more effective ways of
- >>accomplishing the same goals. It seems, however, that some people need
- >>to get their own name in the paper though these actions. It looks
- >>bad in this rather environmentally aware society. Which is more important -
- >>stopping the timber cut, or proving how dedicated one is to the cause?
- >>All to often the answer is the latter.
- >> -Brad Porter
- >
- >Newspapers in small lumber towns won't care about the cut, most likely.
- >If there is a protest, they will most likely cover it, but not without
- >the protest. Of course, this isn't true of the LA Times, but there
- >aren't too many illegal cuts in Los Angeles. Many of such protests
- >actually serve the purpose of saving the trees since the cut will be
- >stopped whenever the glacial legal processes can be brought to fore.
- >If the blockade succeeds in stopping the timber cut, then how can
- >one tell whether proving dedication is the main cause?
- >
- >I think
- >your main point is that its better to work with people rather than
- >against them, and I agree with this. But it only works when there
- >is some form of consensus about the general goals and the debate
- >is about facts or methods that can be analysed. If I value
- >biodiversity highly and someone else thinks keeping their job for
- >a few more years is worth more than the existence of a species,
- >finding common ground can be difficult.
- I agree, it can be, but the image of activists is that they don't really try
- to find a common ground. Publicity-wise you're going to lose this battle.
- If the reporters who give the on-scene report are the same ones who care
- more about the industry than the illegal timber cut then the fact that
- it was illegal may never be published. Activisim loses the publicity
- battle. I'll admit, the scenario you've painted is one of the less radical.
- The activists that need to be stopped are the ones who "save the animals",
- even domesticated ones, at all cost. The blockade is not THE MOST effective
- action available. As a last resort, well maybe it's tolerable.
- -Brad Porter
- DRPORTER@SUVM
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