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- From: markp@joplin.wri.com (Mark Pundurs)
- Subject: Re: Who are you guys?
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- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:10:36 GMT
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- In <29625@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) writes:
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- >In talk.abortion, markp@joplin.wri.com (Mark Pundurs) writes:
- >>In <29611@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) writes:
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- >>Glad to see you concede that the "it's my womb, I can kill ANYONE I find
- >>in there for ANY reason" argument is tommyrot.
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- >Have conceeded nothing, merely kept it short.
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- >>A first stab at defining what makes us human is "reasoning, free-willed
- >>individuality." (From this follows our rights: right to life, right
-
- >Stab?!? Geez, so violent! ;-)
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- >>to free speech, etc.) But we also regard newborn infants as human (I
- >>hope!); and they sure aren't reasoning. We can reconcile this fact
- >>with the above definition only by expanding that definition of
- >>humanity (and the possession of human rights) to include the potential
- >>for reasoning, free-willed individuality. Newborns have this potential --
- >>and so do z/e/f's.
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- >I see one immediate problem--you confuse the biological definition of
- >human with its generic definition.
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- Where do I do this? In claiming that newborns are human?
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- >They are not the same. A single cell
- >on your body is human. But it is not human (if you see what I mean:).
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- >As for the rest, I see no reason to extend any protections to those
- >not considered human beings, especially while they're leading a parasitic
- >existance using a human being.
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- Newborns are financially and emotionally parasitic.
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- >Ron Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
- > The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
- > Make a U-turn to God.
- >The irony is priceless.
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- Mark Pundurs
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