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- From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
- Subject: Re: Abortion, Caves, Galen (WAS Vegetarianism and abortion)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan12.071852.5068@netcom.com>
- Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California
- References: <aidler.726560622@sanjuan> <1993Jan10.023119.13207@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <aidler.726805188@sanjuan>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:18:52 GMT
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- aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) writes ...
- >mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- >
- >>In article <aidler.726560622@sanjuan> aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) writes:
- >>>Any zygote has the *potential* to produce a unique child
- >>Any sperm/ovum has the *potential* to produce a unique child.
- >>Do you have a point to make?
- >
- >Once fertilization occurs, the genetic basis for a
- >unique human being is cast. Before fertilization, the
- >sperm and ovum could combine with any of its
- >counterparts so a unique individual does not exist.
-
- Are genes then to be the determinant of humanity? A unique set of
- genes is what makes us human?
-
- Genes alone do not make a person. They may not even make up most of a
- person, since environment play a very large part in the forming of any
- person.
-
- >>I can *and have* shown that 2/3 or *more* of all completely fail to
- >>produce the "unique child" you are so enamoured of. Which makes a
- >>child a far cry from the inevitable result you claim it is.
- >
- >However, until you can determine that a z/e/f at any
- >stage in his or her development will not thrive, we
- >must give each of them a full opportunity to develop.
-
- The problem is that the same thing can be said for each ovum and every
- little spermatozoan. You don't know what kind of person a given egg
- might turn out to be until you give it its full opportunity to
- develop.
-
- >When a woman consents to sexual relations she should
- >be prepared to offer those resources at part of the
- >biological contract.
-
- Why? Because YOU say so?
-
- How about _this_ statement.
-
- When a person attempts to force continued pregnancy on a woman, that
- person should be prepared to offer any needed financial resources as
- part of the social contract.
-
- --
- Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
- ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietszsche
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