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- From: jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE)
- Subject: Re: You had to encourage me... (formerly: Let me state my view...)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan11.202606.18888@ncsu.edu>
- Originator: jjprice@c00076-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
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- Reply-To: jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE)
- Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
- References: <1993Jan7.233902.5458@ncsu.edu> <1993Jan8.094418.26919@wam.umd.edu>
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- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:26:06 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan8.094418.26919@wam.umd.edu>, judi@wam.umd.edu (Jay T Stein - you can't prove otherwise; it must be me) writes:
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- |>What: <1993Jan7.233902.5458@ncsu.edu>
- |>Who: jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE)
- |>
- |>>1. A fetus is a human being were as life begins at conception...you
- |>> can't prove otherwise so it must be true.
- |>
- |>*rolls his eyes*
- |>
- |>I can't prove otherwise, so it must be true? Oh, geez.
- |>
- |>Elvis is alive on Mars. There are exactly 223 chemical elements. You will
- |>be hit by a crazed toddler on a tricycle in your lifetime. In a previous
- |>life, I was Paul Revere's horse (gratuitous straight line to see who will
- |>sink to the cheap shot). Cats have souls. You can't prove otherwise, so...
- |>
- |>Really, Mr. Price, where *are* you coming from here?
- |>
- Every one thought Columbus was crazy because he thought the world was
- round and you think I'm crazy because life begins at conception.BTW Elvis
- is alive.Are you willing to kill 1.5 million people based on your
- reasoning...I sure as hell aren't...each fetus is a unique individual
- and has a unique genetic code(twins are twins) that will not
- happen again it is an endangered species and 1.5 million are being made
- extinct each year.
-
- |>>2. A person has a right to do whatever they wish so long as they don't
- |>> infringe upon another person...now the baby is using the body of the
- |>> mother we can say it may be removed...BUT...this will result in the
- |>> death of the fetus. So the lesser of the 2 evils must be followed and
- |>> the life of the fetus is more imp. than the choice of the mother...in
- |>> the event of life threating situation both lives are equal and it is
- |>> then a personal choice.
- |>
- |>Define "life-threatening." Immediate, 100% chance of death? 50%? 10?
- |>And besides, you have not established personhood of the fetus.
- |>
- A preknown condition or one that arises during pregnancy that may cripple-
- kill the mother and is not due to the normal strains of childbirth.
-
- |>[Conclusion based on faulty premises deleted]
- |>
- |>> Somalia OK because we are trying to save
- |>> lives even if we do end up killing a few...
- |>
- |>So you're in favor of killing babies born without a brain stem for organs,
- |>then, since by actively killing one baby we can give life to many more?
- |>
- If the baby has no brain than apparently it cannot function as a human
- and lacks the ability to develop a brain yes I would agree.
-
- |>Oh, Doooooooug.... Suzaaaaaaane... might you want to respond to Mr. Price
- |>here?
- |>
- |>> The same with abortion of course
- |>> a few women will die perfoming illegal abortions but we will save many more.
- |>
- |>Thus proving that fetuses are more important than women.
- |>
- no a fetus is not more important just As important.
-
- |>I don't mean this as a flame, but I recognize that there is no way to say it
- |>without it sounding like one. So be it:
- |>
- Don't worry I welcome flames anyways yours doesn't seem like one.
-
- |>It seems that most every time you post, you bury yourself ever deeper in a
- |>pit of faulty logic, emotionalism and really perverted conclusions such as
- |>the above. Your views could use a major logic overhaul.
-
- THat does but thanks for the advise...:-)
- |
- --
- -Jeffrey Price
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- | able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not |
- | to go also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with |
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