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- From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Mark is playing Devil's Advocate, and badly? (Re: Who are you guys?)
- Message-ID: <29531@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
- Date: 11 Jan 93 18:31:39 GMT
- References: <markp.726641670@spider.wri.com> <markp.726771489@joplin.wri.com>
- Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
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- In talk.abortion, markp@joplin.wri.com (Mark Pundurs) writes:
- >In <1993Jan10.220646.246@Princeton.EDU> datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David A
- >aron Tepper) writes:
- ]>>In article <markp.726677631@spider.wri.com>, markp@spider.wri.com (Mark
- ]>>Pundurs) writes:
-
- ]]>>cases, the z/e/f dies. The only difference is the circumstances of
- ]]>>the conception.
- ]>>>Which IS an important difference.
- >>Not to the z/e/f it isn't!
- >But it is to the mother.
-
- Why should what happens to the mother allow her to propogate a crime
- onto another? Because JB ran off with $300 of your money, got hit by
- a tanker truck that subsequently exploded and burned JB and your money
- up, does that give you the right to remove $300 from JB's wife/child/parents?
- It's about the same thing.
-
- Abortion is either wrong, or it is not. If it is wrong, you're propogating
- a wrong for another wrong, giving the proverbial two wrongs make a right.
- This is contradictory, not to mention assinine. That leaves one other
- case, that abortion is not wrong, in which case it would be wrong to
- deny it to those who want/need it.
-
- >>too. So I'll ask you again: Why is abortion okay in the case of rape
- >>or incest, but not in other cases?
-
- >I did. Here it is again: Chance (e.g., contraceptive failure) is an
- >inescapable fact of reality; rape is a violation of rights by a free
- >actor. Your logic has so far unsupportedly denied this distinction.
-
- What does this have to do with the z/e/f? Does it make any difference
- to it? Again, abortion is either right or wrong. I leave you now to
- make that distinction. Have fun making it match with the convoluted
- garbage you've spewn so far on the net.
-
- btw, I'd like to see how you answer that without making punishment the
- prime theme in your answer.
-
- Ron Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
- The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
- Make a U-turn to God.
- The irony is priceless.
-