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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: who got whom pregnant (was: Spoken Like a True ProLifer)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan9.234612.14258@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <30DEC92.18072448@vax.clarku.edu> <C04w4u.CBs@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <ucspbj4@zola.esd.sgi.com>
- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:46:12 GMT
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- In article <ucspbj4@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio) writes:
- >---
- >vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
- >|hsims@vax.clarku.edu writes:
- >[...]
- >|>I'm still not sure why you brought up the driving analogy. But anyways,
- >|>you also do not have a right to force me to stay pregnant against my will.
- >|>You do not have a right to force me to use my body to support a fetus. You
- >|>are not forced by law to donate bone marrow or kidneys to save other people's
- >|>lives. Why should pregnant women have less rights than you?
- >
- >|I don't think you understand... you got YOURSELF pregnant.
- >
- >No sir, no men involved! Just that wanton sluttish woman!
- >
- >|I'm simply forcing you NOT to murder the helpess, unwilling victim
- >|of your hormonal lack of control.
- >
- >So you feel that forcing women to continue unwanted pregnancies
- >is just punishment for their engagement in sex. And once they've
- >given birth, you'd like once again use force to take their
- >children away from them. What equivalent punishment do you
- >suggest for the men involved? Nine months of slavery? Organ
- >donation? What, praytell?
-
- There is no "equivalent" punishment, of course. The best we can
- do by law is exact a "comparable" punishment. I have no problem with
- exacting from those who INSIST that a woman carry a pregnancy to term,
- be it the father, or the totality of pro-life, a constructive, fair and just
- compensation (monetary or otherwise) for the benefit of the woman.
-
- Forced organ donation (unless the woman is the recipient), and/or the
- mutilation and life-risks suggested in Cathi Cook's notorious "Value of a Man"
- proposal, don't strike me as particularly constructive, though...
-
- - Kevin
-