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- From: kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman)
- Subject: Re: MEET GEORGE TILLER, LATE-TERM ABORTIONIST Part Two
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.004737.29074@ncar.ucar.edu>
- Keywords: abortion, digoxin, laminaria, pro-death
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- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:47:37 GMT
- Lines: 57
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- > = vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:
- >> = kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman) writes:
- >v> = vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:
- >bk> = kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman) writes:
- >>pn> = nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
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-
- >>pn> The cold light of reality begins with the fee schedule. Sixteen to 22
- >>pn> weeks, $750; 22 to 26 weeks, $1800. Beyond 26 weeks, $2200.
-
- >bk> (2) IF the fact the Dr. Tiller charges money for abortions demonstrates
- >bk> that he's only in it for the money, THEN what can we conclude when
- >bk> Dr.s & hospitals charge even more for live births?
-
- >v> Gotta share a little story with y'all here. My mother is an ob/gyn nurse
- >v> [...] a patient in the hospital for an elective abortion [...]
- >v> was completely ready for the operation, and just before they were going
- >v> to start it, the doctor asked the patient if she had brought the money to
- >v> [...] You tell me, was that doctor interested that patients health? [...]
- >v>
- >v> My dentist gives me a month to pay her bills.
-
- >> Well folks, there you have it: two little stories that clearly establish
- >> that Dr. Tiller (as well as all doctors who do abortions?) are primarily
- >> motivated by money, whereas all other doctors are not.
-
- > Sir,
- >
- > I challenge you to show me where I even hinted that A. All abortionists are
- > in it for the money and B. that all other doctors are not. If I did not say
- > this do not attribute it to me.
-
- OK, we'll note that you don't want to be associated with the statement
- or suggestion that Dr. Tiller (or abortionists in general) are primarily
- in it for the money.
-
- My sincere apologies. Based on the subject of the thread, which is
- "abortionists" in general, and Dr. Tiller in particular, I assumed you
- were making a point about Dr. Tiller and/or "abortionists" in general.
- My mistake.
-
- If you want to change the subject, then sure, I will readily agree that
- "abortionists DO EXIST who are clearly motivated solely by money and not
- compassion". But this is such a weak statement that it's almost pointless
- to mention it. I also strongly suspect that doctors (of most varieties)
- DO EXIST who are clearly motivated primarily by money. But again, so what?
-
- ---------------------
- > I simply illustrated that abortionists do exist who are clearly motivated
- > solely by money and not compassion. Abortion is a very profitable business,
- > generally more profitable than many other surgeries. [...]
-
- But as has been recently documented, abortion is no where near as
- profitable as normal child-birth. This apparently renders the well worn
- abortionists-are-only-in-it-for-the-money argument invalid.
-
- -Brian
-