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- From: keegan@pan.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Clarifying "Restrictions"
- Message-ID: <1993Jan7.025736.10780@crd.ge.com>
- Date: 7 Jan 93 02:57:36 GMT
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- kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- -> Linda Birmingham <ADMN8647@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
- -> >
- -> >"Support for total repeal of all abortion laws also came from
- -> >some unexpected sources. Lyndon Johnson had appointed a
- -> >Presidential Advisory Council on the Status of Women, with former
- -> >Senator Maurine Neuberger of Oregon as its chairwoman. Its
- -> >report, released in 1968, called for the repeal of all abortion
- -> >laws." L. Tribe, Abortion: The Clash of Absolutes
- -> >
- -> >"NAC came out in support of abortion as the woman's right. Women
- -> >might seek abortions after twenty weeks with the most compelling
- -> >reasons - a teenager afraid to tell, a meonpausal woman who had
- -> >not realized she was pregnant, a woman who has just discovered
- -> >that she is carrying a deformed child. A time-limit on abortion
- -> >was thus seen as an arbitrary denial of these individual
- -> >circumstances". S. Rowbotham, The Past is Before Us
- -> >
- -> >"The answer to later abortion is not further restrictions - the
- -> >answer is access early in the pregnancy. Sex education and birth
- -> >control counselling not only reduce the need for abortion per se
- -> >but also reduce the number of later abortions. Ready access to
- -> >an abortion facility eliminates delay. And full insurance
- -> >coverage means that women must not spend time looking for money
- -> >to pay for the procedure. Thus, people who oppose these measures
- -> >are, in fact, contributing to the incidence of later abortions"
- -> >CARAL (Canada), The Case Against Criminal Sanctions
- -> >
- -> >"Every woman has the fundamental right to decide for herself,
- -> >free from government interference, whether or not to have an
- -> >abortion. Today, more than ever, American families do not want
- -> >the government to trample on their right to privacy by mandating
- -> >how they must decide on the most intimate, personal matters.
- -> >That is why even though Americans may differ on what
- -> >circumstances for terminating a crisis pregnancy are consistent
- -> >with their own personal moral views, on the fundamental question
- -> >of who should make this personal decision, the majority of
- -> >Americans agree that each woman must have the right to make this
- -> >private choice for herself. Anti-choice proposals to ban
- -> >abortions for sex-selection" or "birth control" are smokescreens
- -> >designed to shift the focus of the debate away from this
- -> >fundamental issue and trivialize the seriousness with which
- -> >millions of women make this highly personal decision. Any
- -> >government restriction on the reasons for which women may obtain
- -> >legal abortions violates the core of this right and could force
- -> >all women to publically justify their reasons for seeking an
- -> >abortion."
- -> >NARAL, Who Decides? A Reproductive Rights Issues Manual
- ->
- -> So much for groups that oppose any and all criminal sanctions against
- -> abortion. Big deal. We knew that already. Care to take a shot at disproving
- -> what Ray _actually_ said, i.e. "almost nobody seriously proposes that there
- -> should be no restrictions WHATEVER on the PROCESS of getting an abortion"
- -> (emphasis added)?
-
- i can see you should have taken ms. birmingham's
- advice to you:
-
- ---------
- 'Mr. Darcy may I suggest that you enroll yourself posthaste in a
- remedial english programme, your lack of reading comprehension is
- astounding. However, until you are able to secure such a class,
- I recommend that in the future you read very slowly, saying each
- word out loud as you come to it. It is possible that this
- method will help to override your megalomaniacal, paranoid,
- "there's a sychophant behind every bush", thought process and
- maybe, just maybe, you will stop presenting yourself as such a
- complete and utter imbecile.'
-
- Linda Birmingham
- <91147.150725ADMN8647@Ryerson.CA>
-