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- From: beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver)
- Subject: Re: Affirmative Action
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- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:11:09 GMT
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- <1idavcINN5dp@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- ><C0EHs2.169@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >><1icftuINNopf@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- >
- >However, since my definition of equitable standards could quite sensibly
- >in this context be presumed to fit as a definition of affirmative action,
- >I don't quite see what your problem is.
- >
- >>In what way is your position on "equitable standards" any support of
- >>AFFIRMATIVE ACTION for men in custody decisions, in any sense whatsoever?
- >
- >Dear me. Since you have failed to provide any definition of affirmative
- >action that argues with my 'equitable standards', I'm at a bit of a loss
- >to figure out just what the heck you want to fight about, Don.
-
- That is because I don't find "equality" or your "equitable standards"
- (whatever that means) to be the same as "affirmative action." And you've
- evaded AA by talking about 'equitable standards.' If 'equitable standards'
- means the SAME to you as 'affirmative action,' then why haven't you just
- said so? Does "quite sensibly in this context be presumed to fit" mean
- that you are offering 'equitable standards' as a definition for AA?
-
-
- >Care to provide a *definition*, as was originally requested?
-
- One of your obvious smokescreens, Adrienne, is to avoid any
- real contributions in favor of "requesting" statements for you
- to pick apart. The spotlight is on you, but you delay making
- any statements as long as possible, because you'd rather get
- your attention through flames from the back row. Here's a challenge:
-
- Adrienne Regard's personal dictionary:
- affirmative action (n): ________________________________________
-
-
- >>Put your money where your mouth is, Adrienne. *You* claimed to be
- >>a feminist whose views contradicted Karl's statements about feminist
- >>positions on affirmative action. Support *your* claim and your flame.
- >
- >Hmm. KARL has yet to provide a definition, either. So, since I'm the
- >only one who has (though of course, I'm perfectly able to understand that
- >it fails to meet your UNSPECIFIED definition, thus your harrangue), I am
- >again unsure about what your problem is.
-
- You based your harangue against Karl on your being a feminist
- in favor of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. You, of all people, should now
- accept that the burden lies on you to defend your claim. But then,
- consistency never comes easy, does it, Adrienne?
-
-
- >But then, the cause of your particular problem isn't much my concern is it.
-
- That much is evident. So why do you bother to make so many
- objections (ie. flames)?
-
- Don
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