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- From: dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
- Subject: Re: Who are you guys?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.195306.862@ncsu.edu>
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- Reply-To: dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
- Organization: North Carolina State University
- References: <1992Dec29.235055.18645@mksol.dseg.ti.com> <1993Jan3.013943.19023@ncsu.edu> <1993Jan4.163857.10936@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
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- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:53:06 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan4.163857.10936@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan) writes:
- >dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >>noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan) writes:
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- >>> 4) Those who hold that abortions are ok for everyone.
-
- >> Position 4 is not logically consistent if a person does not
- >> condone infanticide in all cases.
-
- > Your statement is only correct if the person believes the infant
- > is not a person. Position 4 is logically consistent if the person
- > believes the fetus is not a person.
-
- The belief that a child becomes a person when the child is born
- is a belief with no logical foundation. I have not seen any
- reasoning which could support that belief, in which the position
- is derived from a set of general moral principles. I don't see
- why an unsupported position can be labeled as being 'logically
- consistent'.
-
- > This does not make it correct.
-
- Agreed.
-
- > The main point of my post was that the two extreme positions seem
- > to be logically consistent to me, and that I required more
- > explanation to understand (position 2) why if abortion is wrong
- > there can be exceptions ("liberal pro-life"), and (position 3) why
- > abortion is wrong for one person and ok for others (pro-choice).
-
- Positions 1,2, and 3 have some logical foundation, in which
- the position is derived from a set of general moral principles.
- The differences between the positions is a result of the differences
- between the underlying moral principles. Position 4 has no
- similar foundation--it is an unsupported belief.
-
- > I appreciate your attempt to explain position 2.
-
- You mean I wasn't successful? :(
-
- >Mike Noonan
-
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- Doug Holtsinger
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