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- From: mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran)
- Subject: Re: Abortion, Caves, Galen (WAS Vegetarianism and abortion)
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- In article <1993Jan4.195041.10322@cbfsb.cb.att.com> motto@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mary.rita.otto) writes:
-
- [Massive deletions, this is getting real long...]
-
- >Rural areas where pre-natal care is not available? Name
- >one. And describe the mental impairment which would
- >cause a woman to remain in one during the last trimester
- >of pregnancy. And provide descriptions of the numbers
- >of women involved in this type of situation.
- >
- Just here in Colorado...
- Westcliffe, SilverCliffe, Brush. Three small moutain towns that are
- essentially snowed in from november till spring. None of which have a
- hospital, clinic, or even doctor in residence.
- Why would somebody stay there? Well, gee, I'm sure it's nice that you
- can go live in a hotel till thebaby is born, but these folks just
- can't afford that. They're farmers and small ranchers. They're
- probably execting a normal delivery, and will usea midwife for it (who
- does live locally) or deliver it themselves (it *is* sort of like
- delivering a calf...). Not a large number of womem affected,
- obviously. If the towns weren't so small, they'd have the medical
- care. We do, hoever, get 1-2 every year that has to be flown in from
- these towns, at great expense and even greater risk. It ain't exactly
- easy to fly into these places...
- Oh, sorry, you only asked for one example. Hope you don't mind. :)
-
- >You are grasping at straws if you have to justify your
- >case on what happened before 1920. You are grasping
- >at straws if you have to justify your case on what
- >happened before 1980.
- >
- Well, we haven't had any flown in from there this year, but we had 3
- last year. I suppose that's current enough for you?
-
- >In the 1910's, far more women died of tuberculosis and polio
- >and diptheria and other diseases then ever faced a scenario
- >like the one you paint. The risks for those diseases are
- >gone -- likewise, medical technology has greatly eliminated
- >the risk for C-sections. Let's keep the discussion on
- >realities.
- >
- The risk for these diseases is gone??? Damn, how'd I miss that? I'm
- *sure* the last time I was at Fitzsimmons they had 4-5 people in with
- TB. Come to think of it, *I* test positive for TB on the tine and PPD
- tests, since I was exposed to about 50-60 people with active TB during
- my years as a respiratory therapist. I don't have TB, but I've sure as
- hell been exposed to it in people who do...
- All of those diseases are still a risk. They are a *lesser* risk ten
- they were 80 years ago, jsut as a C-section is, but they are *still*
- risks.
- Let's do keep the discussion on realties. Good idea...
-
- [Rest of argument deleted]
-
- --
- Mark Cochran merlin@eddie.ee.vt.edu
- These are the views of my employer. They also represent the views of
- your employer, your government, the Church of your choice, and the
- Ghost of Elvis. So there.
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