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- From: steven@advtech.uswest.com ( Steve Novak)
- Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
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- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:14:53 GMT
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- > = vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:
- >> = Larry Margolis
-
- >>>That's not a fetus.
-
- >>Right - in most abortions, it's an embryo, not yet a fetus.
-
- >Document this.
-
- Um, Larry documented this last week. You're not very good at
- disingenuousness.
-
- In fact, maybe we should add it to the FAQ.
-
- >>>Don't put words into my mouth. Having sex and getting pregnant are not
- >>>crime. They are, however, actions that an adult must deal with like an
- >>>adult.
-
- Meaning, getting pregnant is only a crime when the woman chooses an
- abortion. At least in your nightmare view of what society should be.
-
- >>Abortion is one way of dealing with an unwanted pregnancy.
-
- >Abortion is a way of avoiding being a mature adult, which kills a baby.
-
- Blatant assertion alert!
-
- Eddie keeps sniffling and calling mindless blobs "babies". Eddie thinks
- being "mature" is having a baby you don't want! In fact, I'd like to
- hear Ed's views on child abuse.
-
- Thanks.
-
- >>>Don't call it a fetus because I doubt you know what a fetus really is.
-
- >>Well, *I* think I do; what do *you* think a fetus is?
-
- >A fetus is the prenatal stage of a species in which the unborn offspring
- >begins to take on the basic physical characteristics of its post birth
- >form. In humans this occurs approximately 8 weeks after fertilization.
- >
- >Would you like anything more specific?
-
- I'd like something a little more *accurate*. Every definiton *I've*
- seen is, after 3 months.
-
- Now, if you were using the Pat Robertson Revisionist Dictionary, then I
- guess I see where your problem is.
-
- Oops! Boy, it's easy to make Paul look bad.
-
- >>>Having sex is exactly the same thing. Once you have CHOSEN (pro-choice?)
- >>>to have sex, you must grow up and be responsible for the result of that
- >>>action.
-
- >>Getting an abortion is one way of taking responsibility if that action results
- >>in an unwanted pregnancy.
-
- >Call it what it is. It is avoiding responsibility. It is also murder.
-
- No, dweeb, in no state of the U.S. is it murder. In no state in the
- U.S. is abortion illegal. It's not going to change. Splatter spittle
- as you will, you are not facing up to, or living in, reality.
-
- I've never seen such a monolithic block of boneheaded liars as the
- pro-"life" contingent here on t.a. You lie, get caught, ignore getting
- caught, lie again, get caught...
-
- You should be named "The Energizer Weenies - they just keep on
- bullshitting!"
-
- If you have a problem with women having sex, say so. Claiming that a
- pregnancy from failed birth control or ignorance of birth control
- constitutes forced birth for a woman is misogynic and thick-skulled.
-
- Maybe you could invent an artificial womb, Crocodile Tears, and bring to
- term all the fetuses you whine about.
-
- >I now know you don't know anything about prenatal development.
-
- This from the guy that knows nothing about when an embryo becomes a
- fetus.
-
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