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- From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
- Newsgroups: soc.bi
- Subject: Re: Bi-wariness
- Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:26:49 GMT
- Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
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- In article <C0Hv6x.6Ar@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
- ->In article <1ieundINNfrl@transfer.stratus.com> pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland) writes:
-
- ->Deconstruct that idea. Like someone else has said. ask them why.
- ->Show them the inherent oppresive nature of what they are doing
- ->compare it to the way that lesbians and gays are treated in society.
- ->If they believe in equality and reempowerment then they will
- ->surely reevaluate their stance. This has always worked when I have
- ->found any GL bigots.
-
- Hmm ... I think I missed the point here.
-
- How is refusing to date someone because of their orientation inherently
- oppressive? How is it oppressive on the same level that lesbians and gays
- are being discriminated against?
-
- It's an issue of rights and privileges, IMHO.
-
- You have a right to seek employment.
- You have a right to look for a place to live.
-
- IMHO, it is unjust and oppressive for someone to deny you these on the basis
- of your orientation. Equal protection and so on.
-
- It is _not_ your right to date whoever you wish to date (in other words, A
- does not have a right to date B until B consents ; A does not have a right
- for B's consent).
-
- Lesbians have no obligation, no duty to date you. They can use whatever
- criteria they want to reject you, and to the lesbians you talked with, being
- bisexual is something they definitely don't wish for in a person. This is
- their right. It is hardly oppressive to not date someone because of _any_
- reason. You being bi is just as valid or invalid a criteria for not dating
- you as my being a computer science person is.
-
- Yeah, you might want to 'educate' them ... I suspect they're missing out on
- a lot, because quite a few of the bifems I know are wonderful people. But
- certainly it is not their obligation/duty to listen, or to even care.
-
- -roy
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