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- From: dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz)
- Subject: Re: Justification for the Space Program
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.232133.2358@cs.rochester.edu>
- Organization: University of Rochester
- References: <jfelder-080193105134@latvia.lerc.nasa.gov> <1993Jan8.190043.24897@cs.rochester.edu> <1993Jan8.215514.22336@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
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- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:21:33 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan8.215514.22336@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> matthews@ial7.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
-
- > There are many useful things to do with petroleum products other
- > than produce energy -- they are useful as lubricants and are needed
- > for the production of plastics and other petrochemicals.
-
- They aren't *needed* for plastics, although they are currently the
- cheapest feedstock. We could make plastics out of any carbon source,
- given energy and cleverness (we already know how to, just not
- competitively). I suspect our descendants will have sufficiently
- better catalysts and cheap enough energy that petroleum would not be
- of interest.
-
- >>Powersats as usually described can't hack it as the primary energy
- >>source for earth, since there's not enough room in GEO. They'd have
-
- > What does this mean? Are you implying that powersats would be as restricted
- > as comsats in "orbital slot" width? Why?
-
- I believe the problem was with shading during the equinoxes. One
- solution would be to make the individual powersats larger, with
- multiple transmitters. I don't know how big you can make them before
- tides get too strong.
-
-
- > There are reasons to think that a lunar surface-based solar power
- > infrastructure could be considerably cheaper than GEO powersats, due to
- > the lack of a requirement to develop a very large-scale lunar surface-
- > to-GEO transportation infrastructure for delivery of lunar raw materials
- > for powersat manufacture.
-
- I was wondering if someone would mention this. This idea loses the
- advantages of GEO powersats: ability to supply any site on earth
- continuously, and the ability to keep the receiver in direct sunlight
- at all times. The first problem can be gotten around with orbital
- reflectors, but that brings back the orbital debris problem (and makes
- the transmission paths even longer).
-
- Perhaps a better solution would be to use laser transmission from very
- large orbits, perhaps using radiation pressure to keep the stations in
- positions from which any debris is rapidly removed. But laser
- transmission has its own problems.
-
- Paul F. Dietz
- dietz@cs.rochester.edu
-