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- From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
- Subject: Re: *** BUSSARD RAMSCOOP ***
- Message-ID: <C0CKyt.7o0@zoo.toronto.edu>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:59:16 GMT
- References: <C0937v.FvM@zoo.toronto.edu> <J85swB3w165w@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca>
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- In article <J85swB3w165w@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca> lord@tradent.wimsey.bc.ca (Jason Cooper) writes:
- >> Building the ramscoop itself is the easy part (difficult though it is).
- >> Getting the hydrogen to *do* something useful, once collected, is hard.
- >> Using it as reaction mass for an antimatter-powered jet engine is going
- >> to be much easier than trying to burn it raw.
- >
- >Ah, but that would defeat the entire purpose of the ramjet itself!
-
- No, not really. Getting reaction mass from the interstellar medium is
- still a *lot* better than having to carry it yourself. This is, after
- all, how existing jet engines work. It's not as good as the ideal of
- cruising forever without a fuel tank, but it still could be very useful,
- and it's much more practical.
-
- >...carrying around a mass of fuel equal to what you are going to tak
- >in in the scoop...
-
- Nope, note that I said "reaction mass". Until you start getting up to
- relativistic speeds, much the most efficient way to use antimatter is
- to heat a large quantity of reaction mass with a small quantity of
- antimatter.
-
- >... How's a carbon-catalyzed
- >reaction sound for getting there (except at the lower end, where we'll
- >have to use some conventional engine to attain a speed at which THAT
- >reaction is possible)?
-
- The problem with sneaky reactions to get around the glacially slow
- fusion rate of ordinary hydrogen is "why doesn't that happen in stars?".
- The mere fact that stars (which do contain carbon) are billions of years
- old indicates that carbon alone is not going to solve your problems. To
- get a reaction many orders of magnitude faster than the natural ones,
- you must use conditions or catalysts which do *not* occur in nature.
-
- Incidentally, to avoid running into the fabled ramscoop speed limit,
- you must *not* use an engine design that converts all the kinetic energy
- of the incoming gas into heat. Otherwise your thrust will drop to zero
- when the incoming gas temperature reaches the exhaust temperature of
- your fusion reaction. As with chemical jet engines, kinetic heating
- of the gas stream is your *enemy*, not your friend, because the reaction
- you're using for power produces a fixed final temperature, not a fixed
- temperature rise. The simplest way around this is the Bussard equivalent
- of the scramjet: don't slow the gas down much, just heat it as it goes
- past. Alas, this has the same sort of problem that scramjets do: to
- make a relativistic-combustion ramjet work, whatever heating reaction you
- use must be fast FAST *FAST*, because it must happen within microseconds
- at the very most.
- --
- "God willing... we shall return." | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- -Gene Cernan, the Moon, Dec 1972 | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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