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- From: ted@physics1 (Emory F. Bunn)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Gravity & Rubber Sheet Analogy Problem
- Followup-To: sci.physics
- Date: 12 Jan 1993 03:53:31 GMT
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- In article <79814@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1057a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt1057a JOHNSTON,KEITH) writes:
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- (Description of the "rubber-sheet analogy in GR deleted.)
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- >But what if the first mass is Earth, and I set the moon in its
- >depression, with no initial velocity. What would pull it "down"
- >toward the Earth, whicsits at the b bottom? Why wouldn't it
-
- The problem is that the rubber-sheet analogy is a terrible one. (Not that
- I can supply a better one, mind you.) GR says that objects travel on
- geodesics (straight lines) through the 4-dimensional manifold spacetime.
- If you draw geodesics on the rubber sheet, they are geodesics on a single
- spacelike slice through that manifold, not on the whole manifold.
- So "straight lines" on the rubber sheet don't necessarily correspond to
- the paths of objects at all.
-
- What you really need to imagine is that the entire spacetime consists of
- an infinite number of copies of the rubber sheet, one for each instant of
- time, and there is some funny definition of "length of a path" on this
- collection of sheets, and the lengths of paths, according to this definition,
- have the property that the actual paths of particles moving under the influence
- of gravity will be of minimal length. In this picture, the path that
- represents the moon sitting still at some distance from the earth would
- not be a geodesic (shortest distance between two points), but the path
- representing the moon starting at rest and falling towards the earth
- would be.
-
- Unfortunately, if you change the analogy in this way to make it correct,
- it's too complicated and un-intuitive to be of any use. That's what
- I meant when I said it's a terrible analogy, and I don't have a better
- one.
-
- -Ted
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