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- From: paul@mtnmath.UUCP (Paul Budnik)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: The instantaneous transfer of information in QM calculations
- Message-ID: <482@mtnmath.UUCP>
- Date: 10 Jan 93 16:58:51 GMT
- References: <481@mtnmath.UUCP> <1993Jan10.005707.11410@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan10.005707.11410@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, muttiah@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Ranjan S Muttiah) writes:
- >
- > Paul, I'm not a quantum mechanic (I wish most of the time I was one
- > with a 50% polarization :-), but I don't think the projection postulate
- > necessarily requires this collapse thing. I think it states that
- > after an experimentation the system will be in state given by: P_a|H> = c<H|H>
- > or something like that. I don't see anything collapsing here. Then there
- > is the statistical operator that takes care of everything that one can say
- > about the experiment. I don't see anything about linear propagation of wave
- > function etc either. Are you questioning whether |H|^2 is really a probability ?
- The linear propagation of the wave function is the evolution of the
- wave function as defined by the Shrodinger equation. I am certainly not
- questioning the interpretation of the wave function as a probability
- density. I am pointing out that for a particular class of experiments
- the postulates of quantum mechanics do not predict what can be observed
- experimentally. I am suggesting that this is reason that one might
- question the assumption that wave function changes *instantaneously*
- when an observation is made.
-
- You are correct that you do not need to use collapse to invoke the projection
- postulate. However, to analyze tests of Bell's inequality you have to invoke
- the projection postulate *twice*. You must assume that the wave function
- has changed in a nonlocal fashion after the first invocation to be consistent
- with the observation made then. It is this changed wave function that has
- collapsed or jumped. You do not need to call it collapse.
- In some interpretations the changed function was there all the time and
- you just choose a different function to use in your calculations. It matters
- little what you call it. You have to change the wave function you are using
- in your *calculations* in a nonlocal way and this nonlocal change
- alters the probability distribution that you use in the second invocation
- of the projection postulate. This is the *only* way to get predictions of
- nonlocal macroscopic effects from the postulates of quantum mechanics.
- All other laws of physics are local.
-
- Paul Budnik
-