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- From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Matt McIrvin)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Recommend high school physics text?
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- Date: 8 Jan 93 22:00:59 GMT
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- rfeldman@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Bob Feldman) writes:
-
- >My son is frustrated because his high school physics textbook doesn't
- >explain how mathematical formulas have been derived. Can anyone recommend
- >a textbook that will give clear, concise, mathematical derivations
- >of formulas used in high school physics?
-
- First of all, it's important to understand what he means by derivations
- of formulas. Many expressions in physics were never derived to begin
- with-- they were postulated and shown to correspond to experiment. To
- make matters less clear, there are often many equivalent ways of
- formulating a physical theory that make different statements about
- what is postulated and what is derived from the postulates.
-
- For instance, in the line of reasoning usually given in high-school
- physics textbooks, Newton's laws aren't derived at all, and neither is
- Coulomb's law or Newton's expression for the gravitational force.
- Formulas that just define a quantity, like kinetic energy, aren't
- derived either; they are definitions.
-
- It's possible to restate classical mechanics so that some of these
- formulas are actually derived consequences of something else, such
- as Lagrangian mechanics. But the way described above is how it's
- usually taught.
-
- Now, once you have those postulates and definitions, you can derive
- consequences-- and a textbook that stated consequences without at
- least giving some idea of the derivation would be a poor textbook
- indeed. Does he mean that the book's derivations are insufficiently
- rigorous, or that purely mathematical statements aren't being properly
- justified? If so, it might be a consequence of a precalculus curriculum,
- in which case I would advise looking in college textbooks (and perhaps
- learning the elementary calculus necessary to follow the discussion).
-
- If, on the other hand, he means that the textbook isn't deriving things
- like F = ma, I would say that within the logical structure used by the
- textbook (and by Newton) this is not a derived statement, but something
- *postulated* to explain some phenomena. The justification comes not
- from a mathematical argument, but from experiments and observations
- in the physical world.
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