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- From: leffler@physics.ubc.ca (Steve Leffler )
- Newsgroups: sci.physics,news.groups
- Subject: Re: sci.physics.research: proposed panel of moderators
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- Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:50:00 GMT
- Organization: The University of British Columbia
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- [I removed sci.misc from the Newsgroups entry, because this doesn't belong
- there. Followups have been redirected to news.groups, where this
- discussion belongs.]
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- sidles@stein.u.washington.edu (John Sidles) writes:
-
- >>In article <MATT.93Jan6101442@physics2.berkeley.edu> matt@physics.berkeley.edu writes:
- >>>There hasn't been very much discussion about sci.physics.research
- >>>lately, but most of the comments seem to have been positive, so I will
- >>>probably post a CFV in a week or two.
- >
- >If there hasn't been much discussion, what does that say about the need
- >for sci.physics.research? Except for the prospective moderators
- >themselves, who else is calling for new group? Is there any evidence
- >that it is a substantial fraction of sci.physics readers?
-
- I for one am calling for a new group, and it seems to me there are quite
- a few others who feel the same, besides the proposed moderators. There
- certainly is a fair amount of discussion going on in news.groups now on
- this topic.
- There is no reason why this proposal should need to be supported by
- a substantial fraction of current sci.physics readers, since the new
- newsgroup will not replace sci.physics, but will supplement it. The goal
- is not necessarily to get everyone on sci.physics involved, but rather
- to create a group which will meet the needs of a certain subgroup of
- sci.physics readers, and hopefully attract many who don't currently read
- sci.physics because of the poor signal to noise ratio there. The only
- important issue is thus whether or not there will be sufficient message
- volume on the new group to justify its existence.
-
-
- >I am curious what fraction of the current postings will be deemed
- >"rejectable". If the rejected fraction is small, then why do we
- >need sci.physics.research? And if the rejected fraction is large,
- >then why are we setting up such an exclusionary newsgroup?
-
- This is a useless objection, since anything which can't be posted on
- sci.physics.research can still be posted on sci.physics. The fraction of
- sci.physics postings which would not qualify for the new group is
- undoubtably quite large, as the flame wars and crackpot threads alone
- constitute a large fraction of the volume on sci.physics. Having a
- group where one can talk about physics without such clutter is a good
- thing.
-
-
- >In summary, there is a substantial down-side to forming a new group.
- >Why meddle with the current system, which works OK? If we want to
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >improve sci.physics, let's do it the old-fashioned way, namely, by
- >posting interesting physics.
-
- The answer to your question, is that many people currently feel that
- the current system is NOT working "OK". Serious discussion of physics
- is being stifled, and serious physicists are discouraged from participating
- in sci.physics by the large amount of noise there. This problem will
- not be corrected simply by "posting more interesting physics", even if you
- could somehow find a way to make the existing readers do so.
-
- ---Steven Leffler
- leffler@physics.ubc.ca
-
-