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- From: sidles@stein.u.washington.edu (John Sidles)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics,news.groups,sci.misc
- Subject: Re: sci.physics.research: proposed panel of moderators
- Date: 8 Jan 1993 01:57:29 GMT
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- >In article <MATT.93Jan6101442@physics2.berkeley.edu> matt@physics.berkeley.edu writes:
- >>There hasn't been very much discussion about sci.physics.research
- >>lately, but most of the comments seem to have been positive, so I will
- >>probably post a CFV in a week or two.
-
- If there hasn't been much discussion, what does that say about the need
- for sci.physics.research? Except for the prospective moderators
- themselves, who else is calling for new group? Is there any evidence
- that it is a substantial fraction of sci.physics readers?
-
- >>First, though, we need a little
- >>bit more detail on who the moderators will be, and what the guidelines
- >>for posting will be.
- >>
- >>In a day or two, I'll be posting a set of guidelines for articles
- >>submitted to sci.physics.research, but first, here's the proposed
- >>panel of moderators.
- >> John Baez (jbaez@math.mit.edu)
- >> Dale Bass (crb7q@virginia.edu)
- >> Bill Johnson (mwj@beta.lanl.gov)
- >> Lee Sawyer (sawyer@utahep.uta.edu)
- >>If one moderator has to quit, the others will choose a replacement.
- >>
-
- I hope these guys are not all scientologists! There would be no
- way to replace them. Sounds like a prescription for a self-perpetuating
- aristocracy to me. Good thing the Constitution isn't set up this way.
-
- >>The intent is that this panel be reasonably diverse in terms of
- >>research interests; each of these people wrote up a "microCV" that
- >>tells a bit about their background and what they do.
- >>
- >>----------------------------------------
- >>John C. Baez
- >>BA mathematics Princeton U. 1982
- >>PhD mathematics MIT 1986
- >>Associate Prof. Dept. of Math. U. C. Riverside
- >>Constructive quantum field theory, nonlinear wave equations, and
- >> the relationship of knot theory to quantum gravity
- >>----------------------------------------
- >>
- >>----------------------------------------
- >>Cameron 'dale' Bass
- >>B.S. Aerospace Engineering, UVa
- >>Graduate Research Assistant, University of Virginia;
- >> Ph.D. expected early 1993 in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering;
- >>Research interests: fluid dynamics, electromagnetism, acoustics
- >>----------------------------------------
- >>
- >>----------------------------------------
- >>Bill Johnson
- >>Staff member [project leader] at Los Alamos National Laboratory;
- >>Ph.D., nuclear chemistry, Univ. of Rochester, 1979;
- >>Research interests: basic and applied nuclear physics, nuclear safeguards
- >>----------------------------------------
- >>
- >>----------------------------------------
- >>H. Lee Sawyer, Jr
- >>B.S. Northeast Louisiana University (1985)
- >>Ph.D. Florida State University (1991)
- >>Experimental high energy physicist (we haven't perfected them yet...)
- >>Member of the E711, ALEPH, D0, and SDC experimental collaborations.
- >>----------------------------------------
- >>--
- >>Matthew Austern Just keep yelling until you attract a
- >>(510) 644-2618 crowd, then a constituency, a movement, a
- >>austern@lbl.bitnet faction, an army! If you don't have any
- >>matt@physics.berkeley.edu solutions, become a part of the problem!
-
- If these are the candidates, then let's hear their platforms!
- Specifically, let each candidate review the last week's submissions
- and tell whether they're acceptable or not (in a line or two), then
- post the reviews.
-
- I am curious what fraction of the current postings will be deemed
- "rejectable". If the rejected fraction is small, then why do we
- need sci.physics.research? And if the rejected fraction is large,
- then why are we setting up such an exclusionary newsgroup?
-
- I am also curious about the inter-rater correlation between
- moderators. If the inter-rater correlation is high, do we really
- need or want such inflexible acceptance criteria? And if the
- correlation is rather small (as might reasonably be expected), do
- we really want to mandate an evaluation which has a large noise
- component?
-
- So do the evaluations "blind", boys! And don't be afraid to post
- them... let the masses see how the proposed system will work. Why
- theorize about how well sci.physics.research will work, when it is
- reasonably easy to gather and post the experimental data?
-
- What bothers me most about sci.physics.research is that it's main
- function seems to be (or could become) one of exclusion, in contrast
- to other other specialty newsgroups (e.g., sci.math.numerics),
- which have sharply deliminted subject areas. Perhaps I'm wrong...
- but polemics won't convince me. So let's see the data.
-
- As usual when social engineering is proposed, the proponents include
- those who will enjoy higher status under the new regime. It is
- remarkable that the above objections, which are only common sense,
- have not been addressed by any of the presumptive moderators, other
- than by hand-waving reassurances.
-
- In summary, there is a substantial down-side to forming a new group.
- Why meddle with the current system, which works OK? If we want to
- improve sci.physics, let's do it the old-fashioned way, namely, by
- posting interesting physics.
-
- Sincerely... John Sidles
-
-