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- From: edharris@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Electric Pinwheel Problem
- Message-ID: <15339.2b4a1056@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>
- Date: 5 Jan 93 22:48:54 EST
- Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics
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- The posting on Ben Franklin and the possible determination of +/- charges
- reminds me an interesting phenomenon (at least I think so).
-
- I had made an electric pinwheel ( just an S-shaped piece of wire free to
- spin about its center):
-
- direction of spin <- ___ *corona here
- /
- /
- /| <-- pivot point
- / |
- corona *--- |______ to +/- High Voltage
-
- You hook it up to a high voltage DC supply (approx 5kV or higher) of either
- + or - polarity and the thing begins to spin in the direction shown
- regardless of the polarity. (In case my drawing is unclear: the electric
- pinwheel spins in the same direction as a water pinwheel with water being
- ejected from the tips of the S-shape. In fact, the corona of the electric
- pinwheel makes it look like "fire" is shooting out the tips of the "S".)
-
- I belive the reason for this is as follows: If the pinwheel is at High
- voltage the electric field at the tips of the "S" will be high enough to
- ionize the surrounding air (thus the visible glow from corona). Now if the
- "S" is at +HV then light electrons will be attracted to the tips and the
- heavy ions will be repelled. Since electrons are light and have a
- relatively high mobility in a plasma, they will be quickly swept out of the
- tip region due to the electric field- thus leaving the plasma near the tips
- with a small net + charge. Therefore the tips are constantly repelled from
- the plasma near the tips...
-
- (The collision of the electrons with the tips contributes only a very tiny
- momentum change to the tips)
-
-
- Anyway I discovered ( or rediscovered) a neat variation to this expt.
-
- If, instead of applying High Voltage DC, you apply high voltage, high
- frequency AC... then you can get the pinwheel to spin BACKWARDS!
-
- I used a solid-state Tesla coil (homebrew):
- frequency 10-20KHz
- Voltage 10-50 kV
-
- Usually the pinwheel spins around in the "Usual" way, but for some voltage/
- frequency combinations it spins backwards.
-
- Anybody got ideas on this?
-
- Flames away!
- -Ed
-