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- Subject: Re: Schools, philosophy of science, epistemology
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- From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
- Date: 10 Jan 93 20:39:35 EDT
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- In <1993Jan10.234752.4562@news.eng.convex.com> cash@convex.com writes:
- > Ah, but do you ask them why they want to get a graduate degree in
- > philosophy? I would caution all and sundry that your motives had best not
- > include making a living as a philosopher.
-
- Well, even if I forget to give that particular speech, the APA won't. It still
- asks graduate departments to send to all applicants that dreary & discouraging
- form letter that says, roughly, "You think you're gonna get a JOB in
- philosophy? HA Ha ha hahahahahahahahahahaha......" So if a student applies to
- 10 schools, 10 copies of that letter show up. Blah! I'm surprised ANYONE ever
- decides to go to grad school in philosophy.
-
- For every philosophy Ph.D. who is
- > successful at doing this (like our very own Dr. Ruth), there are dozens who
- > must resign themselves to lesser lives, toiling among the masses (such as
- > your humble correspondent).
-
- Well, Peter, let me assure you that those of you living such "lesser lives,
- toiling among the masses" probably have a helluva easier time paying off your
- student loans. :-)
-
- Just for comparison on that point, the esteemed institution at which I earn my
- rent payments pays me (mid-range assistant prof) $8000/year less than I would
- earn if I were an elementary school teacher in this state. Or rather, that's
- how much it WOULD be paying me if I weren't on only 3/4 salary this year (a
- move VERY strongly recommended by my dept chair in order to "buy myself some
- writing time" in order to bolster my publications so that I don't "perish" when
- my publish-or-perish day o' reckoning arrives). %^O
-
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- Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
- Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
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