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- Subject: Re: Schools, philosophy of science, epistemology
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- From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
- Date: 10 Jan 93 11:39:31 EDT
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- In <C0M726.Jo7@umassd.edu> pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU writes:
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- > >
- > > I am currently an undergraduate student of psychology and am
- > >interested in exporing the philosophical underpinings of this field
- > >(and epistemology in general). For this reason I am looking for
- > >schools, or people, who have developed an expertise in this area.
-
- > The mainstream of contemporary philosophy is profoundly nihilist and
- > anti-system despite its technical sophistication and appearance of rationality.
- > The psychological application of this witch's brew can be found in the culture
- > of Weimar Germany or in the "lifestyle" of any drug addict.
-
- Oh, for Pete's sake! If this isn't one of the most sweepingly unhelpful
- comments I've seen on the net, then I don't know what is. The poster is an
- undergrad wanting to evaluate graduate programs (I take it). A response like
- yours, filled with vagueness, cynicism, hostility and innuendo, but absolutely
- no information is supposed to accomplish ... what?
-
- > An extreme, radical alternative is Aristotle, the inventor or
- > discoverer of rational system, logic, science, and the science of psychology!
- > A neo-Aristotelian approach is found in Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism
-
- While you are welcome to express your opinions in favor of Ayn Rand's
- objectivism, it is rather irresponsible to imply that nothing else in
- philosophy is worth studying. I'd be fired from my job & ridden out of town on
- a rail if I were to suggest that my favorite philosophical approaches were the
- only ones worth studying, & I'd deserve it, too. This attitude is profoundly
- ANTI-philosophical. It makes me doubt that you know what philosophical inquiry
- is actually all about. BTW, specialization in Aristotle is NOT rare, nor is is
- "radical". There are many serious Aristotle & neo-Aristotelian scholars in
- so-called "mainstream" philosophy departments.
-
- > Most philosophy departments are worthless
-
- You display only your own dogmatism & ignorance in assertions like this.
-
- but, I believe, Northwestern,
- > Georgetown, and UTexas-Austin specialize in classical realism.
-
- (a) These are all fine universities with quite well respected philosophy
- departments. (b) The poster didn't ASK for refs to departments which
- "specialize in classical realism." This student asked for info about people or
- departments which specialize in philosophical underpinnings of psychology, and
- epistemology in general.
-
- TO THE ORIGINAL POSTER:
-
- Here's what I suggest to my students who are looking for philosophy graduate
- programs, or even undergraduate programs to which they might transfer:
-
- 1. What readings or lectures have piqued your interest? Who wrote them? Whose
- work were they discussing? Make note of the AUTHORS who are involved in
- writing about the philosophical subjects that interest you.
-
- 2. Go to DIALOG & do a search for other work by those authors. Check some of
- the articles/books out of the library. Read them. Do they interest you? Bore
- you? Intellectually stimulate you to want to learn more?
-
- 3. Chase down some of the bibliographic references you've found to current
- journal articles. Read them. Read responses to them. Note where the authors
- of such works are coming from (usually you will begin to see a pattern of
- people and/or departments which are producing the work that is most interesting
- TO YOU).
-
- 4. If you really want to be thorough, write to some of these folks. Tell them
- what philosophical work has attracted your interest. Ask what it would be like
- for you to attend their university to study <the sorts of things that interest
- you>. (You may be surprised; some may say "Gee, we have a great group of
- students and faculty here doing X; it would be a good place to come to study
- that." But others may say, "I'm the only one in my department who does X, and
- its very hard for students to do X seriously with other members of this
- department, because <they don't know much about it; they don't recognize it as
- a legitimate subfield; I'm not on speaking terms with any of them; etc., etc.,
- etc.>") Soon you will begin to get a sense of what kind of place YOU'D like to
- be at to do YOUR work.
-
- 5. Apply to several of those places.
-
- Good luck!
-
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- Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
- Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
-