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- From: ns14@crux3.crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Nathan Otto Siemers)
- Subject: Re: Inappropriate rejections in science (was: Truzzi Lecture)
- In-Reply-To: turpin@cs.utexas.edu's message of 9 Jan 1993 11:30:50 -0600
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- >>>>> On 9 Jan 1993 11:30:50 -0600, turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell
- Russell> Turpin) said: Followup-To: sci.philosophy.tech
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- Russell> -*---- Cross-posted and redirected to sci.philosophy.tech.
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- Russell> (Jon Noring) writes:
- >
- > Here's an excerpt from Truzzi's lecture which follows in whole, just
- Russell> to give
- > you an idea of its' contents:
-
- Russell> I thank Jon Noring for posting this excerpt. All remaining
- Russell> single-indent text is from this excerpt, i.e., Truzzi's
- Russell> words, not Jon Noring's.
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- > The history of science is full of some very notable rejections.
- > Some of them are now even silly sounding. Lord Kelvin said that
- > x-rays would prove to be a hoax. Thomas Watson, once chairman of
- > the board of IBM, said in 1943, "I think there is a world market for
- > about five computers". This got so bad that in 1889, Charles Duell,
- > who was then the commissioner of the US Office of Patents, wrote a
- > letter to president McKinley asking him to abolish the Patents
- > Office since "everything that can be invented has been invented".
- > [See note at end of this post for a later clarification of this
- > fact.] Ernst Mach said he could not accept the theory of relativity
- > any more than he could accept the existence of atoms and other such
- > dogmas, as he put it. Edison supposedly said that he saw no
- > commercial future for the light bulb. When the phonograph was first
- > demonstrated at the French Academy of Science, one scientist leaped
- > up, grabbed the exhibitor, started shaking him, and said, "I won't
- > be taken in by your ventriloquist!" Rutherford called atomic power
- > "moonshine". The history of science is full of such crazy stories.
-
- Russell> Yes, the history of science *is* full of these crazy
- Russell> stories. But I do not think any of these stories
- Russell> illustrates Truzzi's point very well. He gives two
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- [stuff deleted]
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- How about the tetrahedral nature of the carbon atom? The idea
- and subsequent notions of stereochemistry were first posited by Van
- Hoft and Lebel (sp?). Wohler, widely considered to be the "father"
- of organic chemistry, denounced them as mystics quite publicly.
-
-
- Slightly more specialized is the decades long argument about
- hypervalent carbon, fought to the death, literally, by H.C. Brown and
- the late Saul Winstein. Winstein happened to be correct, but it
- wasn't conclusively demonstrated until after his death. Literally
- MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars were spent fighting this chemistry
- "war".
-
- I could think of more...
-
- Nathan Siemers
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