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- From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
- Subject: Re: transfinite real numbers? (...probably not. :( )
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- Keywords: well defined?
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- References: <C0pD6I.Dx9@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> <1isjqpINNdbb@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> <1993Jan12.162012.4950@maths.tcd.ie>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:46:30 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan12.162012.4950@maths.tcd.ie> tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes:
- >edgar@math.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes:
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- >>* As Cantor claimed, his transfinite numbers exist concretely. I wonder if
- >>* a process similar to the construction of real number (e.g.Dedekind cut)
- >>* can be extended.
-
-
- >>This sounds like J. H. Conway's "surreal numbers". His text on it is
- >>called _On Numbers and Games_. (Part Zero is on numbers.)
-
- >I've never understood why Conway's definition of number has not caught on.
- >Why isn't it taught in universities everywhere,
- >instead of Dedekind sections or Cauchy sequences?
- >Is it just that mathematicians are conservative?
-
- >With Conway's definition of number,
- >infinitesimals are real quantities, not limits.
- >Surely this would make the teaching of calculus much easier?
-
- The problem is that not everything can be done with it. This differs from
- non-standard analysis, in which nothing really new can be done, but the old
- things can be looked at in a new light. But in either, one still has the
- problems of limits, Dedekind cuts, and Cauchy sequences. There are different
- definition of theses, and the limit of a sequence includes using the added
- integers as well.
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- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
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