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- From: yeomans@austin.onu.edu (Charles Yeomans)
- Subject: Re: High Prices of Math Books. I am pissed.
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- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:11:31 GMT
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- In article <1icl8cINN983@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu>, hougen@focus.csl.uiuc.edu (Darrell Roy Hougen) writes:
- >
- > bathurst@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Bruce Bathurst) writes:
- >
- > % Because of this (I suspect) there is no mechanism, as there is in
- > % medicine, for the cost of expensive necessities to be shared by the
- > % rest of society.
- >
- > Do we need this socialist drivel on sci.math? Look at the state of
- > medicine in America and tell me whether you think it has benefitted
- > from massive government intervention.
- >
- > % Many students can't buy even basic texts, others
- > % sell them back. Students, as a consequence, are not only less
- > % educated, but have not learned how to teach themselves, through
- > % reading. Those who choose to devote their lives to advancing
- > % knowledge in basic fields face the choice of purchasing books or food.
- >
- > Have they suddenly lost the ability to use the libraries?
- >
- > % Generations of Americans educated their children for a better life.
- > % The fact that the educated go without luxuries, or sometimes food, is
- > % not a fact that Americans will soon believe.
- >
- > The fact that undergrad and grad students can't afford luxuries is
- > well known. The idea that some are going without food is ridiculous.
- > Undergrad students, grad students and professors are already reaping
- > the benefits of massive state and federal government subsidies of
- > their education. Would you like to further increase the burden on the
- > less well educated to pay for the life styles of the educated? That
- > hardly seems fair. As a grad student myself, I have no sympathy for
- > other grad students or undergrad students that whine about their
- > living conditions. At least college students have a chance to make
- > their lives better doing something they want to do. If the result is
- > not improved living conditions, then some people should consider
- > changing careers.
- >
- I sometimes went without food as an undergraduate. I don't find it
- so ridiculous. I couldn't buy books for most of my days as an
- undergraduate. I went to the library, but they didn't always have the
- books for the courses I took. Thank goodness for Texas-style
- courses. Indeed, my graduate school stipend enabled me to enjoy a higher
- standard of living than ever before.
-
- But I didn't feel that I was owed anything because of any talent I
- had or because I wanted to learn. It is certainly the case that many
- intellectuals feel they are owed a living by society - it's a bit like
- being pissed off at someone because you love them and they don't love you
- back.
-
- As much as it sometimes annoys me, I wonder if the general trend of anti-
- intellectualism in American history hasn't been a big benefit to the
- development of this country.
-
- Charles Yeomans
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