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- From: blom@husc15.harvard.edu
- Newsgroups: sci.math
- Subject: Re: probability = 0
- Message-ID: <1993Jan5.134631.19024@husc15.harvard.edu>
- Date: 5 Jan 93 18:46:31 GMT
- Article-I.D.: husc15.1993Jan5.134631.19024
- References: <9301051655.AA22441@aplpy.jhuapl.edu>
- Organization: Harvard University Science Center
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- In article <9301051655.AA22441@aplpy.jhuapl.edu>, louis@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Louis Vasquez) writes:
- > Hello,
- > My friend and I got in a debate about the probability of
- > something happening. The event was that another friend of ours
- > could win the superbowl. Not that he would play on a winning team
- > in the superbowl but that he would win it.
- > My thinking is that anything at all is possible and there are
- > ways that this could happen however unlikely they are. For example
- > the rules of the superbowl could change to allow a single person to
- > be a team and this friend of ours would by some incredible luck, win it.
- > I also say that there are many many other ways that it is possible.
- > Therefore I say there is a probability of greater than zero of this
- > happening.
- > His arguments (although I must admit I probably don't fully
- > understand them) are that by definition a single person cannot win
- > the superbowl. And the case that I gave is a finite case in an
- > infinite number of possible cases and therefore the probability is
- > n devided by infinity, a limit which approaches zero. Therefore he
- > says there is a probability of exactly zero that this will happen.
- > Anyone care to comment?
- > Lou,
- > louis@aplpy.jhuapl.edu
-
- You're both right. The probability is indeed infinitesmal, and approaches
- zero, as your friend says. But it is not exactly zero, and weird things can
- happen. Now, consider another case: that some very, very weak team will win
- the Superbowl. Even if the chance in any particular year that the team will
- win the Superbowl, it's bound to happen eventually, if the team competes every
- year forever. Your problem is that this friend will not live forever, and
- would have to win the superbowl in his lifetime. Thus the odds remain small,
- and almost zero (though never quite zero).
-
- Eric Blom
- Harvard U
-
- P.S. I could walk through a wall, but the odds that all the particles in my
- body and in the wall were correctly aligned are vanishingly small.
-