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- From: evan@hpl.hp.com (Evan Kirshenbaum)
- Subject: Final(?) Draft of ASCII/IPA Representation
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- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:58:38 GMT
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- My profoundest apologies for my inexcusable tardiness.
- Unfortunately, the tasks I get payed to do built up, and finishing
- this off got a low priority. Still, when you start a project, you owe
- it to others to see it completed, and so, with things slowing down
- before the holiday shutdown, and two people having emailed me for
- copies, I finally got off my ass and got this finished.
-
- Following-up to this document will be the latest (last?) draft of the
- standard and a document attempting to explain the system for English
- speakers for the benefit of non-linguists in alt.usage.english (and
- elsewhere).
-
- The changes since the second draft are as follows:
-
- M is now back as a (labio-dental nasal) segment rather than as a
- diacritic signifying nasalization. This keeps the rule that all
- letters are segment symbols, which I think is useful.
-
- ~ as a diacritic following vowels signals nasalization. Following
- consonants, it still signals velarization (but not
- pharyngealization).
-
- <?> as a diacritic signals murmuring.
-
- <H> as a diacritic signals pharyngealization rather than murmuring.
-
- ; as a diacritic signals palatalization.
-
- Since I did not get any feedback on my 'r' proposal, I did not include
- it in this draft. It was
-
- > - reserve /r/ for the more common {alv,trl} (instead of
- > /r<trl>/)
- > - use /R/ for the American {alv,apr} (instead of /r/)
- > - use /R-/ for {mid,cnt,rnd,vwl} which always seemed to me
- > exactly equivalent to "syllabic r". (instead of /R/)
- >
- > This means that I pronounce "brother" as /'bR@ DR-/ instead of /'br@
- > DR/. (perhaps those "@"s should be "V"s).
- >
- > I've seen "r with vertical underbar" used for this sound in place of
- > "schwa with hook". Do people feel that these need to be
- > dinstinguished? Or is there general revulsion at redefining a vowel
- > as a syllabic consonant?
- >
- > For those of you who feel the scheme is too anglocentric, this would
- > have the added advantage of being the first common English segment
- > that needs to be written with a diacritic. :-)
-
- Again, sorry for the delay.
-
- Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
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