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- From: ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith)
- Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.energy
- Subject: Re: Nuclear Power and Climate Change
- Message-ID: <1993Jan7.195051.2803@michael.apple.com>
- Date: 7 Jan 93 19:50:51 GMT
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- In article <a0yrjcf@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
- >ems@michael.apple.com (E. Michael Smith) writes:
- >
- >>Diesels can burn natural gas. (Masters Thesis in the Berkely Engineering
- >>Library, I don't remember the authors name, demonstrated stationary
- >>diesel plant on natural gas.)
- >
- >One of the things I've done at several nuke plants is performance qualify
- >the standby diesel generators so I have quite a bit of experience with
- >these beasts.
- >
- >A demonstration and anything in production with a proven track record
- >is very different.
-
- There are also available commercial production conversion kits to
- convert a diesel to use propane and natural gas as well. I didn't
- include this in the first post in the interests of brevity. If you
- would like, I can post the stuff. (I posted it once a few years ago...)
-
- >>Diesels can come up almost instantly.
- >
- >The typical tech spec for standby diesel generators is off-to-full-load
- >in 10 seconds. They can - barely - but at a huge cost.
-
- You will note that in my post I also stated that diesels were being
- phased out due to high cost ... We agree...
-
- [...]
- >>Diesels can power Very Large Ships. (Pistons several feet in diameter,
- >>many per engine...) Practical diesel generators can be Very Large...
- >
- >But not VERY VERY large. Combustion turbines of 100 MWE or larger
- >are not that uncommon. The diesel generators at Sequoyah (largest I've seen)
- >were 10 MWE and required two 16 cylinder ship-type engines per generator.
-
- So you would use 10 of them, which makes them expensive, which we both agree
- on ...
-
- --
-
- E. Michael Smith ems@apple.COM
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