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- From: ornitz@kodak.kodak.com (Barry x24904/ER/167B-TED)
- Subject: Re: Microwave Oven Plasma Etcher? (results)
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- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 00:09:30 GMT
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- In article <15387.2b4d8179@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>
- edharris@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
- > I put in a beaker of water and tried adjusting the amount of power by
- >varying the amount of water.
- >
- >Unfortunately though, if you put in too much water, it seems to kill the
- >plasma. If you back off a bit on the amount of water, then the plasma/gas combo
- >is still too hot. It behaves in an either/or manner: either too much power, or
- >no plasma! Maybe there is a way to overcome this problem.
- >
- >Since I had nothing to loose, I tried John's suggestion of lowering the value
- >of the capacitor in series with the magnetron. So far, this works, but I'm not
- >sure if the magnetron is being damaged in some way.
-
- You probably have not read my last reply to John. Changing the capacitor
- WILL likely damage the magnetron. But since this is a form of vacuum tube,
- it tends to fail more gracefully than solid-state devices. I would mainly
- expect you to get very much shorter life from the magnetron, perhaps tens of
- hours rather than hundreds or thousands. But this is just a guess.
-
- Remember that the plasmas also have negative resistance properties. A home
- microwave oven is a multimode cavity. Most commercial systems use single-mode
- resonant cavities when they want precise control. That little fan-blade like
- thing in your oven (which may be hidden under a plastic cover) is not a fan
- but a "stirrer" to deflect the microwaves from the waveguide and cause them
- to sweep the oven cavity in an attempt to get uniform heating of food. I would
- guess that the problems you are seeing are due to times when your plasma is in
- the full field of the oven. You might need to distribute smaller containers
- of water throughout the oven to make things more uniform. A possibility is
- to wrap the plasma chamber with Teflon tubing in which you have flowing water.
-
- Use a small diameter tubing; certainly no larger than 1/4 " OD. If you know
- how to make "waveguide beyond cutoff" openings into the cavity, you can go as
- large as 1/2" OD thick-wall tubing. Remember that the water has a high
- dielectric constant and thus the water filled waveguide has a much lower cutoff
- frequency than does air filled guide. If you do not understand what I am
- talking about here, email me. It is easy to hurt yourself by microwave leakage
- from the oven if you go drilling holes in the oven to run the tubing and do
- things wrong. Safety first!
- Barry
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