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- From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
- Subject: Re: Zimmermann's responses to Sidelnikov's PGP critique
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- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:06:43 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan8.193153.4336@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
- >My purpose in posting this is not to enter into the dispute between
- >Zimmermann and Sidelnikov, but to comment on some interesting questions that
- >the Sidelnikov post may raise. Some preface may be in order:
- I have another interesting if somewhat paranoid question:
- How do we know that Mr. Sidelnikov is who he says
- he is? How do we know that we are not the victims
- of a spoof? It is quite possible to make net postings
- look like they came from anywhere. Does anyone have
- any more light to shed on this?
-
-
- >In my many individual visits to the Soviet Union at the personal
- >invitation of the Soviet Academy of Sciences, and in my discussions
- >with Soviet scientific leaders, it became clear to me that in the
- >Soviet structure, the academic and Academy scientific structure was
- >intimately bound up with the military and intelligence structure.
- >Through the mechanism of the State Committee on Science and Technology
- >the Soviets ran their Nuclear, Missile, and many other programs.
- >Leaders in the State Committee were also leaders in the Soviet Academy
- >of Sciences and in the academic community.
- You could have saved yourself (or the taxpayers ;-)) some
- money getting this info. You could have asked almost anyone
- who had been a journalist there or had taken any Soviet
- Studies courses. I thought this was rather widely known
- in the west.
-
-
- >This raises the question of whether Sidelnikov had some senior role,
- >directly or indirectly, in the Soviet's equivalent of the NSA.
- IF he is indeed who he APPEARS to be.
-
- >Let me be perfectly clear here. Sidelnikov's standing in the
- >cryptology field in the Soviet scientific community is of the most
- >senior level, and that's not a statement about science politics.
- How do your REALLY know this?
-
- >It's inappropriate to take his remarks as if they were those of some
- >competitive programmer picking nits about PGP's program code. It's
- >especially inappropriate to take a confrontational attitude.
- Welcome to the internet Mr. Sidelnikov how do you like freedom?
- It can be rather painful huh? ;-)
-
-
- >Finally, I'd suggest extreme politeness in responding to Sidelnikov,
- >and no little respect. Think of him as the Russian equivalent of
- >Einstein in his field if it will help. In Soviet Science, Academicians
- >are analogous to "the immortals".
- Nobody is immortal Dave, not even you. ;-) Look we got this
- nonsense before about Prof. Denning from Georgetown. The nice
- thing about the net is that it is NOT a respecter of persons.
- We are all equal here, unlike the non-cyber world. Mr. Sidelnikov
- will have to adjust to the rigors of absolute freedom. I'm
- sure he'll do quite nicely David without your "protection".
-
- I would like to take this opportunity to extend a friendly
- "howdy" to Mr. Sidelnikov (whoever he may be) and welcome
- him to the internet where even the "immortal" can be flamed.
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- smg
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