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- From: Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com
- Newsgroups: sci.crypt
- Subject: Re: Another well-intentioned novice's question
- Message-ID: <cfG9faf0Bwwb4F5T9z@transarc.com>
- Date: 4 Jan 93 10:15:34 GMT
- Article-I.D.: transarc.cfG9faf0Bwwb4F5T9z
- References: <1993Jan04.051300.26089@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
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- Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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- In-Reply-To: <1993Jan04.170847.18420@rchland.ibm.com>
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- lwloen@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Larry Loen) writes:
- > In the hypothetical example, compression moves the overall cost up
- > to 2 to the 60 from the original 2 to the 54. That ain't chicken
- > feed, but it will probably not make a serious difference in overall
- > security, in the end. If one can exhaustively break DES in a day,
- > having to wait 64 days will defeat some opponents, but others will be
- > just as happy on the 64th day as the first.
- >
- > Note, however, that the key technology remains breaking the basic DES. Once
- > one can spring for a cost on the order of 2 to the 54th, it does not seem
- > like the typical opponent will run out of money at 2 to the 60th or that they
- > will not simply wait the extra time if they do.
-
- Does it change the analysis if I substitute "month" for "day" above?
- "If one can exhaustively break DES in a month, having to wait a little
- over 5 years will defeat some opponents..."
-
- I have to imagine that it would defeat nearly all the opponents, since
- most of the data will be well-nigh worthless after 5 years. Along the
- same lines, even governments can't necessarily spend 64X to complete
- a job which would otherwise require an expenditure of X.
-
- In short, linear increases in complexity with sufficiently large
- constant factors may provide a better security enhancement than do
- exponential increases with small constant factors.
-
- Not a flame, just a nit.
-
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