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- From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
- Subject: Re: Oxygenated Compounds in Gasoline
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- Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:58:17 GMT
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- srgxbhh@grace.cri.nz writes:
-
- >Well I do think that ALL of these fuels can burn without oxygen.
- >Clue - Another element starting with F can replace Oxygen as the
- >oxidant. I am not saying it is used today as a transportation
- >fuel oxidant, but that these fuels " can burn without oxygen ".
-
- Chlorine and Bromine will also oxidize hydrocarbons too but that's
- not called "burning" is is?
-
- >In general , if people would realise that the oxygenated fuel
- >additives are really just partially burned hydrocarbons, they
- >would realise they are paying for oxygen that can not provide
- >energy. On a mass basis one molecule of oxygen is equivalent
- >to 1.33 carbons or 16 hydrogens, so significant amounts of
- >potential fuel energy are lost.
-
- Then you would assert that nitromethane (4CH3NO2) is oxygen paid
- for that can not provide energy? After all, it carries TWO oxygen
- atoms.
-
- >However the oxygenates can help manufacturers utilise
- >hydrocarbon feedstocks with inferior combustion characteristics
- >(eg low octane numbers ) as gasolines.
-
- Octane rating has NOTHING to do with combustion characteristics. Period.
- Octane rating is the measure of a very specific parameter, the ability
- of a fuel to resist explosive combustion. This characteristic has to
- do with how slow the combustion precursor reactions proceed. When
- they are kept sufficiently slow either from "strong" molecules or
- the catalytic action of TEL, no knock occurs.
-
- As far as using oxygenates for improving octane of "inferior stock", no.
- It is cheaper to reform or isomerize low quality feedstocks to higher octane
- components than it is to synthesize ethers and blend. Ether IS used to push
- the octane above that reasonably possible through reforming but the
- base stock surely is NOT inferior.
-
- >The oxygenates have
- >significantly different combustion characteristics to the
- >common components of gasoline. Consequently, if correctly
- >formulated into gasolines the overall emissions may be reduced
- >for the targetted engines.
-
- The only "combustion characteristic" that differs is the stoichoimetric
- point is richer, thus causing the overall mix to be leaner.
-
- >>Specific energy is almost the same for alcohol and gasoline:
- >>
- >>Gasoline 2.92
- >>methanol 3.08
- >>Ethanol 3.00
-
- >I'm not certain of the US definition of "specific energy" but here
- >it's defined in MJ/kg of the fuel. Typical values for fuels are
-
- Then you are misusing the term. The definition of specific energy
- according to SAE and API is the actual fuel energy delivered to the
- combustion chamber per unit mass of air. The theoretical specific
- energy is computed by dividing the lower heating value by the stoich
- air/fuel ratio. The actual SE is computed from the actual heat of
- combustion and the actual air/fuel ratio. Indeed this terminology
- is used throughout the literature in my library.
-
- Specific Energy Rato, the specific energy of a fuel ratioed to that
- of a standard, usually isooctane, is the best indicator of how
- much power a fuel will make relative to another. Consider:
-
- Nitromethane 2.3
- Methanol 1.06
- Isooctane 1.00
-
- >However these are only a few of the issues, as many other factors
- >also come into play when fuels are used in existing internal
- >combustion engines, eg Heat of vapourisation, Research Octane Number,
- >Motor Octane Number, Boiling Range, Road Octane Number etc. etc.
-
- Cmon guy, quit pitching out empty buzz words. Of course these things
- are important but they are also fairly tightly regulated, at least
- in the US and EC markets so that whatever fuel blend is available at
- the pump, the characteristics will be similar.
-
- John
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