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- From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
- Date: 7 Jan 1993 14:37:42 GMT
- Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
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- Keywords: flywheel, IEEE Spectrum, graphite
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- philw@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Philip W White) writes:
- >Rotor to run on magnetic bearings in a vacuum chamber. Containment structure
- >is outside the vacuum chamber and separate from it. Vacuum chamber mounted
- >on gimbals inside containment to handle what folks in this thread have
- >called the "gyroscopic effect".
-
- It would seem to me that at least one axis needs to be fixed in order
- to extract much power from the system, otherwise energy will get
- transferred from the flywheel to the gimbals using the generator's
- resistance as a transmission. The more resistance the gimbals offer
- the less of a problem this would be, but the more you'd see unwanted
- effects. The less resistance, the more energy you loose to the
- containment structure -- dropping efficiency.
-
- As other people mentioned multiple flywheels can cancel gyroscopic
- effects for the whole system (which aren't that dramatic for small
- flywheels anyway -- I kept envisioning one big one) so I guess that's
- not a real big problem if you can make the overall frame strong
- enough.
-
- >"Unlike massive steel rotors, which can fail in a spectacular fashion,
- >throwing off large chunks of shrapnel, fiber-based composite rotors tend
- >to fail by disintegrating into a mass of fairly benign 'cotton candy',
- >to borrow Post's descriptive phrase." That is a direct quote so if you
- >want to flame it we all realize you are questioning Post's idea,
- >not mine.
-
- >Containment box of "3-dimensional composite" to retard crack propagation.
-
- He's right that he'll get a much more even disintegration than with
- steel but I think he'll find an uneven energy distribution anyway,
- making it much harder to contain. Regardless, cotton candy is
- dangerous stuff at those speeds :-).
-
- Thanks for the information.
-
- jim frost
- jimf@centerline.com
-