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- From: philw@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Philip W White)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
- Keywords: flywheel, IEEE Spectrum, graphite
- Message-ID: <11066@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>
- Date: 7 Jan 93 03:38:20 GMT
- Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.
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- Anyone interested in Electric Vehicles might want to look at the November
- 1992 issue of the IEEE Spectrum magazine (ISSN 0018-9235).
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- There is a sidebar on flywheel energy storage, unfortunately without
- any references to other more detailed publications. From that sidebar:
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- Richard F. Post of Lawrence Livermore Nat. Lab., CA and Univ. of California
- Davis proposes a small flywheel for use in vehicles. It would rotate at
- 10,000 radians/sec (95,500 rev/minute?) and store 1 Kilowatt-hour
- (1.34 horsepower-hour).
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- A vehicle would use 20 to 30 of these.
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- Specific energy for the system, including containment structure, estimated
- by Post at 150 Watt-hours/kilogram (= 0.2 hp-hr/kg = 0.44 hp-hr/lbm).
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- I calculate 30 such flywheels, storing 30 KWhrs, have a mass of 200 Kg
- (440 pounds storing 40 hp-hours?). Obviously not a real long-range
- vehicle but none of these EVs have been so far.
-
- Rotor to run on magnetic bearings in a vacuum chamber. Containment structure
- is outside the vacuum chamber and separate from it. Vacuum chamber mounted
- on gimbals inside containment to handle what folks in this thread have
- called the "gyroscopic effect". Vacuum chamber running at 1 to 0.1
- millipascals (I don't have a conversion table for pascals...) giving a
- rotor rundown time of "several months".
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- Rotor constructed of composite based on graphite fibers.
- "Unlike massive steel rotors, which can fail in a spectacular fashion,
- throwing off large chunks of shrapnel, fiber-based composite rotors tend
- to fail by disintegrating into a mass of fairly benign 'cotton candy',
- to borrow Post's descriptive phrase." That is a direct quote so if you
- want to flame it we all realize you are questioning Post's idea,
- not mine.
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- Containment box of "3-dimensional composite" to retard crack propagation.
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- Rotor has permanent magnets attached and motor/generator windings run
- up a tube at the rotor's rotational axis. That tube is part of the
- vacuum chamber wall, so the windings are outside the vacuum chamber.
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- One big advantage claimed is that these flywheels can deliver power
- at the rate of at least 5000 watts/kilogram, while an internal combustion
- engine would do 800 watts/kg at best. (800 W/kg = 2.3 hp/lbm, would be
- 460 hp from a 200 pound engine). Of course the
- weight of the electric motor and controls must be added to the flywheel
- storage system but still I think the flywheel system would have a big
- power/weight advantage over the internal combustion engine, especially as
- the weight of the tranmission must be added to the IC engine system.
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- Also in same magazine, Chrysler claims regenerative braking (w/ chemical
- batteries) extends range by 8% on a standard SAE driving route (the "C cycle").
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- Phil White Tektronix, Beaverton, OR
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