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- From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
- Subject: Re: THE GRIPPING HAND by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
- Message-ID: <1993Jan6.204535.28193@netcom.com>
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- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:45:35 GMT
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- ecl@mtgzy.att.com (Evelyn C Leeper +1 908 957 2070):
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- >This is billed as the "long awaited sequel to THE MOTE IN GOD'S EYE."
- >Some things aren't worth the wait.
-
- Too bad. Ah well, the library will get it eventually.
-
- >The Navy does seem to have one woman officer...
-
- This is actually a step backwards from Mote, in which there were none.
- It's legitimate to declare, as they did there, that because of the wars
- and their aftermath the cultural wheel turned and women once again
- became protected/second-class citizens. But authors who do this should
- stick to their guns: To then decide that the 31st century marks the early
- phase of the second women's movement is to have the worst of both worlds.
-
- >...while the eighteen-year-old heiress is allowed to tag
- >along on what is at least a quasi-military expedition. She does this by by
- >batting her eyes and stamping her feet
-
- Again, a step backward from Mote, in which the heiress was allowed to tag
- along on a quasi-military expedition by virtue of her rank, pure and simple.
-
- >All the women in the book are someone's "love interest" and everyone is
- >of course heterosexual, and everyone assumes everyone else is as well.
-
- I have to side with Heinlein somewhat on this: 'Everyone knows' that the
- mores of the fourth millenium will be those of the 1990s, and not those
- of the 1950s? That said, though, it sounds as though the authors forgot
- that their *readers* aren't living in the 1950s.
-
- >Except for the politics, which are from the 1980s--the Arab Liberation
- >Organization (ALO) and bomb-throwings on New Ireland...Several authors and
- >philosophers are quoted, but none are from after 1992.
-
- I'm puzzled. This sort of thing is simply poor craftsmanship -- built-in
- obsolescence. There are ways to at least *try* to avoid making a book
- too time-bound, and Niven, at least, has demonstrated many of them in
- the past. Couldn't they be bothered?
-
- >There's also the "Crazy Eddie" references...
-
- This *is* an inheritance from Mote -- though there are better and worse
- ways to handle it -- and it does sound as though having read Mote is
- the only reasonable motivation for reading Hand.
-
- Sigh.
-
- -----
- Dani Zweig
- dani@netcom.com
-
- If you're going to write, don't pretend to write down. It's going to be the
- best you can do, and it's the fact that it's the best you can do that kills
- you! -- Dorothy Parker
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