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- From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev)
- Newsgroups: comp.virus
- Subject: Re: Joshi Question (PC)
- Message-ID: <0018.9301121242.AA22066@barnabas.cert.org>
- Date: 7 Jan 93 20:10:19 GMT
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- rind@enterprise.bih (David Rind) writes:
-
- > Does Joshi trap attempts at warm reboots? There was an intermittent
- > problem with a new program on a computer that turned out
- > to be infected with Joshi. The problem was sporadic enough that I
- > can't be certain that getting rid of Joshi eliminated it, but if
- > Joshi was trapping Alt-Ctrl-Del, then that would explain the "bug".
-
- Yes, Joshi intercepts INT 9 (the keyboard interrupt) and checks for
- Alt-Ctrl-Del. If it is detected, the virus tries to "survive the warm
- reboot". That is, it clears the screen, restores the interrupt vectors
- it has saved while it has been loaded in memory, and issues INT 19h.
- This will actually reboot the computer without cleaning the memory,
- thus the virus will not be destroyed.
-
- A careful user will not be fooled by that, because most machines
- display a lot of messages during the warm reboot. These messages come
- from the BIOS. Unfortunately, this is not reliable enough, because
- most people are not careful and will not make the difference between a
- real warm reboot and the virus just blanking the screen (i.e., no
- messages). On the top of that, some computers (mainly true IBM PC or
- PS/2s) do not display any messages during the warm reboot...
-
- This has created the myth that some viruses are able to survive a warm
- reboot. They cannot, or at least they cannot do this unnoticeably on
- most computers, but nevertheless you are always advised to cold-boot
- when you suspect a virus in memory...
-
- Regards,
- Vesselin
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