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- From: kim@Software.Mitel.COM (Kim Letkeman)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
- Subject: Re: Stallman and friends
- Message-ID: <KIM.93Jan12090307@kim.Software.Mitel.COM>
- Date: 12 Jan 93 14:03:07 GMT
- References: <D2150035.mrrnh5@outpost.SF-Bay.org> <lkoupbINNqfp@news.bbn.com>
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- In-reply-to: mjensen@BBN.COM's message of 7 Jan 93 18:49:15 GMT
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- In article <lkoupbINNqfp@news.bbn.com> mjensen@BBN.COM (Martin Jensen) writes:
-
- | The FSF does not generally object to software copyrights and does
- | not intend to prevent people and corporations from making money from
- | software. The are, however, concerned with attempts by software
- | companies to patent incredibly vague concepts (such as the "look and
- | feel" of a software interface) as well as some very basic software
- | algorithms (what would you do if someone copyrighted "linked lists"
- | or "queues"? chances are you've been using them ...)
-
- The "look and feel" suits by Apple are for copyright infringement and
- are related to patents only in that both are a form of protection for
- intellectual property.
-
- As for patenting "incredibly vague" concepts, don't worry yourself
- over it. A few bad patents have slipped through (e.g. XOR cursor), but
- by and large algorithms are being patented in the context of an
- application, which threatens you and I minimally if at all (in my
- opinion of course.)
-
- | The analogy to these in the publishing industry would be if Ian
- | Fleming tried to copyright "a story about an agent working for a
- | government intelligence agency" or the sentence "He pulled out his
- | gun." ... Tom Clancy would still be selling insurance.
-
- This is a crock and not even worth debating. Copyrighting is not
- patenting. Copyrighting protects the specific expression of the work
- (i.e. the lyrics and/or melody in a song, the specific story as told.)
- Patenting protects an idea that should be unique and have utility.
- They aren't even close.
-
- | They DO try to encourage software authors to share their ideas and
- | to make those ideas available to the general public, so that the
- | industry as a whole may benefit from them. The believe that
- | state-of-the-art is advanced anytime ideas are publically shared.
- | (Have you gained any insights or used ideas published by other
- | authors? I'm sure you have.)
-
- There is no doubt that the state-of-the-art advances faster as
- information is shared. Patents are intended as one way of providing
- that service while still offering protection to the inventor. Whether
- they do this or not is another matter of debate.
-
- And speaking of debate. This one raged on comp.patents for a long
- time. Perhaps this group should switch back to its intended purpose
- and those who insist on debating over such mis-information should go
- over and get a good beating on comp.patents. I enjoyed mine. :-)
- --
- Kim Letkeman kim@Software.Mitel.COM
-