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- Subject: Re: Modem cable myths
- Message-ID: <9301112254137465@waltham.columbus.oh.us>
- From: scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 22:54:13 -0500
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- jh> scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us writes regarding hardware
- jh> "handshaking":
- jh>
- jh> > This is important to know if you are using a
- jh> > Mac Plus, Classic and a couple other models
- jh> > (LC?) which will simply not support hardware
- jh> > handshaking due to braindead design.
- jh>
- jh> If we are trying to clear up myths, then let's clear up the two
- jh> created by this sentence:
-
- Thanks. sorry for screwing that up.
-
- jh> What the Plus lacks is the serial port's pin-7 connection, used
- jh> on other Macs for connecting to the modem's DataCarrierDetect
- jh> output. This is nice to have if you are running a host system,
- jh> since it provides a way to determine (via hardware) if a caller
- jh> has hung up, but it is totally unnecessary for implementing
- jh> flow-control. The GPI connection is missing from the Mac Plus,
- jh> Mac Classic, Mac Classic II, Mac LC, and Mac LC II.
- jh>
- jh> > Finally, a reliable source for hardware
- jh> > handshaking cables: Mac Dataflow (410)
- jh> > 569-7636 Just ask for "cable ID 3 from the
- jh> > Hermes docs."
- jh>
- jh> I am not familiar with what wiring results from following "cable
- jh> ID 3 from the Hermes doc". ( But it sure sounds like the kind of
- jh> stuff myths are made of!)
-
- No myth on this one. I can guarantee it. I've used these cables for hardware
- handshaking on th efollowing brands of modems:
-
- US Robotics
- Telebit
- Intel
- Quickcomm
- Zoom
- Atrie
-
- The cables work flawlessly on all of them. Here are the pinouts for the
- tech-minded:
-
- CABLE ID 3:
- Macintosh MINI DIN-8 Male --------> RS-232 DB-25 Male
- 1--------> 20, and 4
- 2--------> 5
- 3--------> 2
- 8,4------> 7
- 5--------> 3
- 7--------> 8
-
- This cable does, as you can see, support wiring from modem pin 8 to mac pin 7,
- but it also implements hardware handshaking by connecting RTS(4) and DTR(20) on
- the modem to DTR(1) on the Mac (I think I got that right:-)
-
- Hardware handshaking cables may be widely available if you know where to look
- for them, but I've seen more than one user here say that he went down to his
- local Mac retailer and asked for a hardware handshaking cable only to find out
- that they did not know what he was talking about. This cable does provide that
- without having to hunt around.
-
-
- Before pointing people in that
- jh> direction I think one ought to specify what connections one gets
- jh> from this arrangement. Cables wired for hardware flow control are
- jh> quite abundant these days. What is harder to find is cables that
- jh> contain wiring from the modem connector's pin 8 (DCD) to the
- jh> mac's pin 7 (GPI). But not many people need that connection in
- jh> their cable. (Of course, if you do have such a cable, you need
- jh> software that will pay attention to the status of the DCD;
-
- If your software doesn't use it, it will just ignore it. At least, that has been
- my experience.
-
- to my
- jh> knowledge, there isn't any Mac comm software that does. One
- jh> exception to this is the Server software of FirstClass. It has an
- jh> option for using DCD via mac pin 7 to monitor the status of the
- jh> modem carrier.)
-