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- From: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger)
- Subject: Re: What's the deal? My chip says "SX-25"; Norton says "SX-33"
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- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 20:45:18 GMT
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- oldwanda (93gke@williams.edu) wrote:
- : In article <1993Jan5.152504.9786@bmers95.bnr.ca> khor@bnr.ca writes:
- : >For example lets take a simple switching speed from low to high. If
- : >it takes 35ns to switch (low and high voltage levels reference points
- : >differs in low->high and high->low), then it will fall into the 25MHz
- : >grade. But if the switching takes only 28MHz then it will fall into
- : >the 33MHz grade.
- :
- : >In the actual case, the testing is a lot more complex and there are
- : >hundreds of electrical tests before the chips a graded.
- :
- : If this is true, then how can vendors push the 25Mhz chips to 33Mhz?
- : Wouldn't they fail at the higher speeds since they were slow in
- : testing?
- :
-
- Sometimes, chip makers will test to fill orders. If they have outstanding
- orders for 25Mhz parts, they will noly perform a test at 25Mhz, and ship those
- that pass. When throughput is important (because of backlog), testing at
- several speeds reduces the part throughput. Parts that fail may be put in a
- retest bin for later testing at a slower speed rating (if they offer it) or
- trashed if it failed the lowest speed rating they offer.
-
- Also, the tests that are performed on the parts, is very rigorous. I know, my
- company makes the testers that chip makers use to test these parts. The
- computer makers are betting on the fact that 99.9% of the time, "pushing"
- a chip will not be as rigorous as the testing that placed them in the rated
- speed category, or that the part would have passed the higher speed rating,
- but was simply not tested because of market demand and backlog.
-
- In some cases, during the life of a product, newer versions of the chip may
- come out, because of a die shrink, that allows production of faster parts,
- but the slower parts are still the old technology. Pushing these chips is
- very dangerous, because the process was never intended to yield such parts.
-
- In any case, you do take a chance, and if at all possible, insist on a part
- factory labeled to run at the speed it is being clocked at.
-
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