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- From: dnwangus@flash.LakeheadU.Ca (Dave Angus)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
- Subject: Re: atari joystick -> ibm gameport?
- Message-ID: <693@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca>
- Date: 4 Jan 1993 10:56:37 GMT
- References: <1993Jan3.181902.2440@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>
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- Organization: Lakehead University, Thunder Bay, Ont., Canada
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- > esaffle@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ed Saffle) writes:
- >
- > After having completely cleaned up my storage closet I found an old
- >joystick that I used with the atari 2600 and the Commodore 64/128
- >when I was younger. The stick is in REALLY good shape, and I don't have
- >one for my 386. Now the quesiton is, can I build an adapter that will
- >make this possible? Being realistic about all this, it should be possible,
- >but I have no idea how to do it, and I *have* heard rumors that such a thing
- >exists. Anyone know how?
- >
- >Ed
-
-
- It can be done. However, it is easiest to modify the joystick itself,
- rather than building an external adaptor. Basically, all you have to
- do is fix the joystick so that in the three possible positions the
- stick generates three different resistances. Fortunately one of
- these resistances is zero ohms, but to generate a higher resistance
- than the center position requires switching in additional resistance.
- This can be done by using a small 5 volt relay.
-
- The October 1988 issue of the Computer Shopper had an article on how
- to do this on page 79. I modified one of the "deluxe" microswitch
- joysticks from Radio Shark using this article as a guideline; it
- works very nicely. For many games the switch type joystick is
- much easier to control. Back when I used an Apple II clone I
- modified another pistolgrip type stick for it. The Apple joystick
- port is wired slightly differently than the PC port, so that no
- relay was necessary.
-
- I'm not much good at drawing schematics in ASCII, but here's the
- schematic (more or less) from the Computer Shopper article.
- The article was written by George Toft. Any errors or mistakes
- are mine.
-
- 9 pin DB connector wiring:
-
- pin 1 +5 volts
- pin 2 Button 0
- pin 3 Input 1
- pin 4 Ground
- pin 6 Input 0
- pin 7 Button 1
-
- I think Input 0 is left/right, but be prepared to swap wires if it isn't.
-
- Parts List:
-
- 1 x 15 pin DB connector.
-
- 1 x Hood for the connector.
-
- 4 x 1/4 watt resistors, 47k or 100k or something in between.
- As long as they are all the same value. 47k may be better
- for fast computers without special game cards.
-
- 2 x Radio Shack 275-240 miniature relays, 5 volt coil, SPDT or
- equivalent.
-
-
- Glue the relays to the phenolic circuit board somewhere where
- they won't interfere with anything.
-
- You'll need to cut some traces on the circuit board to isolate
- the switches. This is not a step-by-step how-to guide. The
- Comp Shopper article is; it has pretty clear pictures of what
- to cut on an Atari stick. If you're using a different stick,
- like the deluxe microswitch ones, then the article won't help
- you much.
-
- Anyway, the fire button switches are wired between the ground
- (pin 4) and pins 2 and 7 respectively. I think the IBM PC
- Technical reference manual has a clear diagram of the PC joystick
- if you want to confirm how it all works.
-
- In the following diagram, contacts are represented as --||--
- for normally open, and as ---|/|--- for normally closed.
- This applies to both the switch contacts and the relay contacts.
-
- Resistors are represented by ---\/\/---
-
- Components are labelled for the horizontal axis. Values for
- the vertical axis are in square brackets [].
-
-
- pin 1 (+5 volts) ---------------------------------------
- | | |
- | | |
- | \ --- Right switch
- | / --- [Down]
- Left switch --- \ |
- [Up] --- / |
- | | |
- | |-------- ( ) Relay Coil
- | | | | for left/right
- | \ | | [up/down]
- | / --- |
- | \ / N/C relay |
- | / --- contact |
- | | | |
- | | | |
- pin 6 (Input 0) ---------------------- |
- [pin 3 (Input 1)] |
- |
- |
- pin 4 (ground) ----------------------------------------
-
-
- You can reuse the original cord with its strain relief; it has
- enough conductors. I used wirewrap wire for the internal wiring
- from the relays to the pcboard. Double check everything; it is
- really easy to get confused with six different switches and
- two relays. Use a program like MSD to test the joystick. With
- a bit of luck the resting position of the stick will be dead
- center, and you'll get full left/right and up/down action.
- If you don't get the right positions, try different resistor
- values or swap in trimpots.
-
-
- If anyone with way too much money is reading this, you may
- be interested in knowing that the ultimate analog joystick
- is made by Measurement Systems, Inc. (203) 838-5561
- Expect to spend around $2500.
- --
- Dave Angus "Kundalini wants his hand back"
-